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Tony Knowles <[log in to unmask]>
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Tony Knowles <[log in to unmask]>
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Very funny, Denys, but actually I am a Pommie import!!!

Tony Knowles     [log in to unmask]
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> From: Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
> To: 'Tony Knowles' <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Off Topic: History of Hong Kong
> Date: Wednesday, 2 July 1997 02:02
>
> Macau, that sounds like a New Zealander describing his one head of
cattle.  ;-)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Denys. . .
>
> Denys Beauchemin
> Hicomp America, Inc.
> [log in to unmask]      www.hicomp.com
> (800) 323-8863   (281) 288-7438  fax: (281) 355-6879
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Knowles [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 1997 10:43 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: Re[2]: Off Topic: History of Hong Kong
>
> And don't forget Macau (Portuguese) which I believe is being handed back
> next year sometime.
>
> Tony Knowles     [log in to unmask]
>                            [log in to unmask]
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> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re[2]: Off Topic: History of Hong Kong
> > Date: Tuesday, 1 July 1997 05:35
> >
> > Eric is correct-
> >
> > I'd like to add that around the same time that the British leased the
New
> > Territories other western powers also 'took' lands from China, this
> included
> > the Germans and the French the Italians also tried but were denied (I
do
> not
> > know when/how the above powers ended their presence in China).
> >   The New Territories comprise about 90% of the area of Hong Kong and
> > although the British, based on the treaties of the Opium Wars, could
have
> > 'held on' to the portions acquired at the conclusion of those wars,
they
> > deemed that it would have been too 'messy' to try and separate the
> regions
> > and thus opted to return the region as a whole.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> > Subject: Re: Off Topic: History of Hong Kong
> > Author:  Eric Bender <[log in to unmask]> at CCGATE
> > Date:    06/30/97 01:25 PM
> >
> >
> > At 12:49 PM 6/30/97 -0700, Lee Gunter wrote:
> > >As I recall, the British Empire was ceded Hong Kong as a condition of
> > >China's surrender following the Opium Wars at the end of the 19th
> > >Century.  This concession was somehow turned into a 99-year lease -
> > >possibly with the treaty that was signed in 1984 which agreed to the
> > >eventual return of Hong Kong to the PRC in 1997.  I'm sorry, but I
> > >don't know more of the details.
> > >
> > >Actually, the (former) Crown Colony of Hong Kong was acquired by the
> > British in 3 stages:
> > 1) Island of Hong Kong - seized in 1841, during the first Opium War,
> > 2) Kowloon - ceded in 1860, after the second Opium War, and
> > 3) New Territories, a mainland area leased in 1898 for 99 years.
> >
> > It was the negotiations concerning the termination of the New
Territories
> > lease which led to the 1984 agreement cited above to return the entire
> > colony to China.
> >
> > (Incidentally, lost in all the hype over the July 1st and Hong Kong is
> that
> > July 1st is also Canada Day, in this case the 130th anniversary of our
> > Confederation in 1867. So to all my fellow HP3K Canucks - Happy Canada
> Day ,
> > eh?)
> >
> >
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