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Thanks Pete,

Tried Ubuntu and it failed on my old Gateway G6-400 so I tried the next
distro that popped up.  I wasn't picky, so I sorted on backwards
compatibilty for old CPU's and Mandriva-One (Mandrake) came up a little
better on the list.  It was also a single-CD install (instead of the
full three.)  It's a 2nd PC on my desk that used to be W/98, it runs
Open Office and I have a browser.  So aside from terminal emulation, it
is about all I could ask for.  

Now that it says I have Wine installed, I only have to figure out how to
run something with it.  (Har har har.)

Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc.

BT







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-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:31 PM
To: Johnson, Tracy
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Wine On Linux for QCTerm


Tracy -

The "xhpterm" and "freevt3k" programs though free, are not GPLed,
therefore you are at the mercy of the author/owner for updates or fixes.
Unfortunate.

Mandriva distribution seems to be a niche distribution.  I suggest you
try Ubuntu and maybe Fedora as better distributions for you.  Another
popular distribution is openSUSE, and the commercial distribution
Xandros has many fans too, but I have used neither so far, so no
personal experience.  I believe you are making things harder for
yourself by choosing Mandriva, but if you have a reason to do so, then
so be it.

Even using the Linux basic terminal capabilities with the "terminfo"
database, you can have a 132 column toggle, line drawing character set,
support of MPEX's redo comma, and more that 24 lines (or even 200
columns).  I don't know about QEdit's visual mode.  Its been a few
years, but there were a few changes I had to make to the hp terminal
definitions in the "terminfo" database to get things working smoothly in
character mode, but that was only 2 to 4 hours worth of fiddling around.

HP has done work on HP terminal emulation on the HP-UX side.  This
should work fine on the HP3000 side, since it is not a server change.  A
quick glance seems to indicate that most (all?) of the changes are to
the "terminfo" database (i.e. quick and easy -- probably take longer to
read than implement).  If you do a "man terminfo", you will see just how
powerful the terminal interface is in Linux, and that all kinds of
terminals can be emulated.

- Pete


On 4/10/07, Johnson, Tracy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I've had 3 weeks of using ./xhpterm  freevt3k on Linux and it sucks.

- I miss being able to expand to a 132 column screen.
- I miss the line-draw character set (shiftin/shiftout chars).
- I miss the ability to use redo comma in MPEX. 
- and I miss the ability to use Visual mode in QEDit.
- I miss the ability to pull down the window and get more than 24 lines.

So I'm looking at installing Wine for my Linux distro so I can get
QCTerm back.  (Too bad there is no native Linux distro for QCTerm.)  I'm

using Mandriva and I found a Wine distro for it.  After downloading I
get a wine-0.9.30-mdk.i586.rpm file.  I'm guessing MDK files are
Mandrake specific.

There is plenty of FAQ on how to install Wine, but for Mandrake files I 
just I cannot find (or it is just deeply buried somewhere) on what(tf)
to do with an .rpm file once you have it.

Any clues?


Tracy Johnson
Measurement Specialties, Inc.

BT







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