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Dear List Fellows,
   While I have never had, not ever seen one of these calendars, Why not
putting a little OT: in the subject?

   If the calendar is ever done, I'd like also to get one.

   Thanks!

    -- Andres j. Ogayar
    -- I.T. Department
    -- Raytheon Microelectronics Espaņa (Malaga, Spain)
    -- +34.95.224.92.27






                                                                                                               
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   And the method of payment would be?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wirt Atmar [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:24 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: 2002 Calendars
>
> Regarding our cancelation of this upcoming year's calendar, I've received
> about 50 private responses. I can't begin to answer them all, so let me
> answer a few of the more common comments in place of them all.
>
> One person wrote:
>
> > Calendar shmalendar!  Wirt, work comes first.  The calendars have been
> >  great.  And just the bragging I get to do about them coming completely
> from
> >  a 3000/Image DB is part of the beauty of it (it just drives the UNIX
> goobers
> >  and the NT geeks crazy that a "proprietary/legacy" system can do such
> >  magic).
>
> The driving the "UNIX goobers crazy" is a good part of the reason that we
> print the calendars :-). Don't let anyone kid you, we enjoy making these
> calendars as much as anyone who receives them and we deeply regret not
> having
> the time.
>
> A second person wrote:
>
> >  You said:
> >
> >  We're trying to finish up three
> >  separate new products before the end of the year and because of that,
> we're
> >  not going to be able to make the calendars that a lot of you might
have
> been
> >  expecting.
> >
> > I hope at least one of them is Van Gogh mode for QCTerm? ;-)
>
> Yes. That's absolutely correct. A part of the holdup with van Gogh has
> been
> deciding what sort of economic model we're going to use for van Gogh.
> We've
> done that now, so it should be full speed ahead. We very much want to get
> the
> forms mode of van Gogh working and in the hands of developers before too
> much
> of the new year has elapsed.
>
> (BTW, as you can guess, it's the developers who would much rather see van
> Gogh get completed than receive a calendar, and from their perspective,
> that's perfectly reasonable).
>
>
>
> A third person wrote:
>
> > But I wonder, perhaps it might be possible to put a PostScript file of
a
> >  calendar on your web site that people could download, customize then
> print
> >  themselves? I know I'd be happy to customize and print one for all the
> >  people in my department.
>
> Yes, we'd be pleased to do that. It would require on your part owning or
> having access to a large-format, PostScript-capable printer, but I would
> be
> pleased to create both PostScript and PDF versions of the calendar that
> can
> be edited by you to substitute in whatever name you would wish on the
> calendar.
>
>
> Finally, another person wrote:
>
> > I was saddened to read your message in HP3000-L about the calendar
> > situation.  Your calendar has occupied prime wall space in my office
> > for several years and has drawn comments from several visitors.  I'm
not
> > sure I can survive a 2002 without an AICS calendar gracing my office
> wall.
> > Have we talked about a bribe??? <G>
>
> Actually, we may give serious consideration to that, letting people pay
> the
> $16 it costs us to make each calendar. The purpose of doing that isn't to
> raise money but just cut the list down this year (and this year only) to
> those who really would like to get a calendar. I would expect that not
> more
> than a hundred people would respond to that offer. We could print that
> many
> calendars with just a few days' effort.
>
> Wirt Atmar
>
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