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Charles Finley <[log in to unmask]>
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Our company distributes and implements SunGard Bi-tech Transport
http://www.xformix.com/xform/xformmf.htm  which implements MPE CI (JCL,
Command Files and UDC's) along with an MPE-like Batchjob scheduler and
spooler.  It has done so since 1989.  Perhaps the reason that only users of
Transport have heard of it is that those products are not sold separately.


Charles Finley
619-795-0720

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Shawn Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: MPE On Linux
> 
> what Linux could REALLY benefit from is MPE's batch and spool
> environment, there's virtually nothing other than cron and regular
> disk files, it's a real pain in the butt and I'm really surprised no
> one has done something yet, well, maybe someone did and I didn't notice it
> yet.
> 
> At 12:17 PM 6/29/2008, Peter M. Eggers wrote:
> >On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Ron Horner
> ><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > I thought that the great thing of the later versions of MPE was that
> it was
> > > POSIX compliant.  If that is the case, couldn't you just load the
> > OS modules
> > > on to Linix?  Granted the hardware drivers would be different.
> >
> >There are a number of good things about POSIX compliancy, especially
> >on Unix.  When from MPE, it adds complexity and more ways to screw
> >things up.  The underlying Linux is fully POSIX compliant and many,
> >many other good things.  You could also add Windows compliancy, MVS
> >compliancy, and so on.  But, integrating different designs necessarily
> >causes complications and trade-offs.
> >
> >My point is to put a friendly MPE face on whatever is useful in Linux
> >and not to expose it directly.  Just add what you need to the API, and
> >write a MPE utility to access it, or integrate it into an existing MPE
> >utility.  The KISS principle.  MPE should be the quickest and easiest
> >way to solve  business information problems.  The more time spent on
> >technical details of the OS, the less focus and time spent on solving
> >the problem at hand.
> >
> >My idea is that MPE should be focussed on solving business information
> >problems only.  The hardware and operating system details should be
> >handed off to Linux, running below and out of sight.
> >
> >Pete
> >
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> 
> Regards,
> 
> Shawn Gordon
> President
> theKompany.com
> www.thekompany.com
> www.mindawn.com
> 949-713-3276
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