As has been proven on this list countless times, the people at HP writing
the manuals are not out in the real world. They are not running shops where
if you get a six hour maintenance window once a month you consider yourself
lucky. They are not running shops where you have to have procedures that can
be understood and followed by someone with only basic training in system
operation. They are not running shops where pagers and cell phones go off
like July 4th fireworks as soon as anything unusual happens.

One of the great advantages of this list is we are able to share our real
world experience of what works and what does not work in practice. By doing
this we all benefit.

<\PLUG ON>
Discussions such as this one often find their way into either the Hidden
Value or net.digest features of The 3000 News/Wire. Look for this particular
discussion on what should comprise an SLT tape in the November issue.
<\PLUG OFF>

John Burke


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Wendell E Gragg
Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 6:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Creating SLT with additions - one more point


This is interesting that the RC would say this, considering that the HP
manuals simply say to use the Sysgen Tape command to make an SLT.  If it
is better to include those things you have listed, then HP really should
put it into the docs.  Of course I may have missed something in the
manual...not exactly my idea of leisure reading!

Wendell



On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Paul Courry wrote:

> To create a fully functional HP3000 system from a Sysgen tape you need the
following stored on the Sysgen tape (according to
> the HPRC):
>
> 1. The sysgen files themselves
> 2. The Sys account minus those files already stored by Sysgen (RTM for a
list)
> 3. And this is the interesting one... The Telesup account.
>

Wendell E. Gragg                 Socorro Independent School District
HP Library Systems Specialist    El Paso Tx
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