I apologize for any inadvertent confusion caused by my careless 
transposition of Iran for Iraq in my previous post.  All references 
to Iran therein were intended to refer to the current situation in 
Iraq instead.


> No, right and wrong are moral determinations, truth and falsehood
> are factuals ones.

Are they indeed. Well then answer this: The Christian God is the 
only god, True or False?


> Truth and falsehood are based on facts.  Without facts truth and
> falsehood cannot be dteremined.
> The Earth is approximately 93 million miles from the
> Sun, no matter what your emotional position on this subject is.

But is the earth flat or spherical? What is the basis upon which 
those that hold to the latter position establish their truth?  And 
what factual evidence can you confront them with that will change 
their minds? Things are not so absolute as you present.  
Ultimately, are not facts only beliefs that one accepts to be true. 
Is this not a tautology?


> I will agree that I would have preferred a declaration of war prior
> to this Iraq invasion, but what we have is still within the bounds
> of Constitutionality, such as it is.

So, the enemy having surrendered you decided to continue the war 
without one?


> Do you propose to drag a Judge and Jury out into the battlefield
> to review evidence? 

The point, which you evidently are determined to evade, is that 
there is no battlefield because there is no war.  The United States 
is presently attempting to subdue a resistance movement, not defeat 
an enemy.  They have already accomplished the latter.  


> Wars have been conducted where both sides fight by the same rules,
> and the soldier did not use 'unfair' advantages as long as his
> opponent did not, at least by and large

I would like to hear the response that that particular piece of 
wisdom would receive from a professional military audience.  Can 
one even conceive of an advantage that would be considered "fair" 
by the disadvantaged side?


> What you are ignoring is, deceit and surprise are only one of many
> tools of war and wars have been won without using these as primary
> tools.

I said that war can be distilled down to two words, deceit and 
surprise.  Wars are won by outlasting the enemy.  I was referring 
to how they are conducted.

Anyway,  as I have often said before, some people are so attached 
to their beliefs that no amount of logic or evidence can shift 
them.  


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