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Shawn Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
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Shawn Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:43:57 -0800
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At 10:37 AM 11/9/2006, James B. Byrne wrote:
>On Thu, November 9, 2006 12:26, John Lee wrote:
> > Many wars are political...some are defensive, like the one going on in the
> > Middle East.
>
>No, Mr. Lee.  Not many, but ALL wars are political. Further, for a citizen
>of a state that has launched numerous unprovoked invasions of much smaller
>countries over the course of the last 110 years to distinguish between
>political and defensive wars is, to put it mildly, laughable.  The U.S.
>war in Iraq is neither defensive, nor just, nor legal.  It was launched on
>a pretext established by deceit.  It has all but destroyed any prospect of
>Iraq actually becoming a modern state.  It has cost the lives of tens of
>thousands of common Iraqis who had no interest in U.S. politics and
>nothing to do with the boogeyman of "international terror".  It has done
>absolutely nothing whatsoever to improve the illusion of security that
>many U.S. citizens seemingly cherish to the point of killing their
>neighbours to establish.  It is a collosal waste of treasure and blood and
>it is happening because many people choose to hold on to their beliefs to
>the grave rather than admit error.

You really have no clue about this do you.  In a very real, and legal 
process, we resumed hostilities from the first gulf war because of 
Iraq's refusal to abide the terms of the cease fire.  WMD was one 
reason, one that EVERY SINGLE AGENCY ON THE PLANET AGREED ON.  Did 
you miss the NYT story just a week or so ago how back in the early 
90's Iraq was just a year away from having nukes?  Iraq had WMD, they 
used it, where it all went should bother you more than anything else.


> >
> > My real point in replying to you was to take issue with your accusation
> > that the US military is a bunch of dumb bunglers.  That offends me.
> >
> > John Lee
> >
>
>Mr. Lee, your incapacity to see anything other than what agrees with your
>evident prejudice means that you are likely to be offended by a great many
>things.  That is both your priviledge and your loss.  I on the other hand
>take no offence at having words put in my mouth by a person evidently
>unfamilar with the meaning and usage of the English language.  I feel
>pity, yes; offence, no.
>
>The actual makeup of the armed services of the world is no mystery to
>those that actually look beyond the veil of trumped up glory and puffery
>that passes for military ceremonial and mystique. The militaries of the
>world exist to further the policies and beliefs of the ruling classes of
>their respective countries and to secure those for classes their positions
>of primacy within their countries.  They are hired or impressed killers
>and they are made up primarily of inexperienced young men drawn from the
>disadvantaged of their societies. You can dress this unpalatable fact up
>with gold braid, coloured ribbons, arcane styles of sddress and
>more-or-less fashionable clothing but the bottom line is that armies exist
>to kill on command and most people whose have any reasonable alternative
>would rather not.
>
>
>--
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Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
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www.thekompany.com
www.mindawn.com
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