We have a similar configuration (1 Tb split between two HPe3000 systems).
We didn't spend anywhere near $1M. While I would agree that the cost of
these boxes is still very high, they have recently come down in price. I
believe the existence of the XP will start to force EMC to lower their
prices to compete.
Randall Davis
Director, Technical Operations
KBkids.com
303.226.6210
"Bartram, Chris"
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10/11/2000 11:10 AM
Please respond to
"Bartram, Chris"
An XP256 with about a terabyte cost us about $1M...
-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mirroring, 12H Autoraid....
or other
I've worked on EMC frames last year and the rumor was a
fully loaded frame was
around $1,000,000.00!! Great boxes with BIG price tag.
John Lee wrote:
> I don't doubt you, Kevin. I hear nothing but kudos for
XP256 and EMC. But
> of interest and relevance to this community, how much
does
an XP256 cost?
> My guess is that they are cost-prohibitive to many.
Again, I go back to
> the Model 20 array as the preferred solution to those who
don't have your
> budget, and that's undoubtedly why we sell so many of
them. If money
> weren't a factor, I'd recommend your solution to
everyone.
>
> John Lee
> Vaske Computer Solutions
>
> At 08:26 PM 10/10/00 -0600, Kevin Newman wrote:
> >I for one have lived the horror story and I've never
been
more happy to
> >spend (the company's) money to get off of the 12Hs. If
you have a low
> >amount of I/O then the 12Hs might be for you. In a
heavy
I/O
> >environment, you wouldn't like to see just how slow your
system can
> >perform.
> >
> >No urban myth here. We had serious performance
problems.
We are
> >running at a minimum of 4-5 times faster on the XP256
disc array and
> >this is without any changes to memory or any other
system
component.
> >Yes, you read that right 400% - 500% better!!!
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >Steve Belkacem wrote:
> >>
> >> Apologies if I misled here. I am basically looking at
> >> both options Mirroring and 12H.
> >>
> >> Mirroring is the system we currently have, and does
> >> not seem to work correctly.
> >>
> >> The 12H raid option is the sytem which we are
> >> currently looking towards and I need to find out if it
> >> is a good solution, or if the horror stores if slow
> >> performace and the ARM utility are an urban myth.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Steve
> >> --- Larry Barnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
> >> Question, why use mirroring on an 12h disc array?
> >> > When we set up a new
> >> > system here we had a 12h fully loaded configured in.
> >> > Within the first 2
> >> > months we had 2 drives fail. The system slowed down
> >> > (considerable)
> >> > while it rebuilt the bad drive but the system never
> >> > went down.
> >> >
> >> > Steve Belkacem wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi people,
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. We currently use mirroring on out production
> >> > > machines. The feeling is that it is not a very
> >> > good
> >> > > system due to every time a primary disc has failed
> >> > ,
> >> > > the switchover to the secondary drive has not
> >> > happened
> >> > > and therefore the software is a waste of time.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am , in a very open minded way, presuming that
> >> > this
> >> > > is due to the mirroring was setup incorrectly at
> >> > the
> >> > > time . Would this be a correct assuption ?
> >> > >
> >> > > Would any users of the system please give me their
> >> > > opinion on this.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2. 12H Autoraid.
> >> > > Again I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts on
> >> > this.
> >> > > >From being in a position where I was happy to
> >> > move to
> >> > > this, I keep hearing horror stories (not direct)
> >> > which
> >> > > is unsettling to say the least.
> >> > >
> >> > > 3. Any other solution for the resilance ?
> >> > >
> >> > > Many Thanks in Advance
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Larry Barnes
> >> > Director of I.T.
> >> > Mitek Corp.
> >> > 602-438-4545 x1366
> >> > Phoenix, AZ 85040
> >> >
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> >>
> >>
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> >
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Larry Barnes
Director of I.T.
Mitek Corp.
602-438-4545 x1366
Phoenix, AZ 85040
Check Us Out !
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