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Larry Barnes <[log in to unmask]>
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<venting/rambling turned on>

NO hp ISN'T LISTENING and they haven't for some time.

hp quit listening back in the late 80's when they began searching for the
best way to KILL the 3000 and the rumors started flying.
the first hint of hp turning their hearing-aids off was when the two
distinct and different user groups started merging together back in the
early 90's (94 I believe).  They couldn't deal with a superior product
(mpe/ix) so they wanted to dilute it with un-ix. I for one opposed this
merger and did what I could to slow this process in Phoenix back when I was
the AZRUG chairman, but that did nothing. They refused to listen to the
RUG's and the questions we had about why they were not doing a  better job
marketing the 3000.  Oh, the vague/generalized statement were made to sooth
our minds and new boxes were introduced.  That tactic was to quite the users
into believing they were doing all they could to expand the market for the
us.  They weren't telling anyone else outside our small nitch, if they did
that would have create a problem and slow down the death march of the 3000.

I could be wrong but it was in the early 90's that you started seeing the
RUG's disappear or merge with others to stay afloat.  Many of the members I
associated with had dropped out because their company change systems.  I
firmly believe hp was telling us (the users) one thing and the corp. exec's
another thing; mainly that the 3000 wasn't the way of the future.  Those
with the checkbooks began listening to this tactic and quit purchasing 3000
and began the more expensive trek to the 9000 boxes or ibm.

don't get your hopes up hp isn't/hasn't/won't be listening.  They have moved
into the throw-a-way systems in hope of generating more revenue and bigger
garbage dumps; world wide.

imho
<I feel better now>


> If you truly find an OS
> "bug", hopefully openMPE or some other entity has taken on the
> responsibility of "fixing" these sorts of errors...
>
>

Is it time for me to say something about HP putting the source code for MPE,
etc into the public domain again???  Anybody at HP listening???

Wayne Boyer

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