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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Adam Dorritie
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OpenMPE Board of Directors Popular Vote
Jon,
I have several concerns about the nature of the balloting.
1) "OpenMPE Board of Directors Popular Vote"
This is not a popular vote, and I, at least, think that it should be.
Many people have a stake in the continuing future of MPE and should be
allowed to have a voice in the electing the directors-- whether their
company can come to consensus or not.
Popular \Pop"u*lar\, a. [L. popularis, fr. populus people: cf.
F. populaire. See {People}.]
1. Of or pertaining to the common people, or to the whole
body of the people, as distinguished from a select
portion; as, the popular voice; popular elections.
[Jon Backus]> It is a "popular vote" in that any company that uses the MPE
platform and/or provides software or services for it can vote. You don't
have to be a member of the OpenMPE discussion group, Interex, or have a
current support contract with HP. You simply have to be using the
platform.
2) "Each company...has one ballot to be cast"
It seems odd that a worldwide conglomerate with multiple divisions in
multiple countries, which owns tens if not hundreds of HP 3000s, and has
tens or hundreds of employees working with the 3000 (and probably many
different opinions about whom should serve on the board) would have the
same power to elect directors as some "consultant" sitting out in the
backwaters of Louisiana with an old Series III that he fires up once
every
six months. No offense to Louisiana intended.
[Jon Backus]> How do you propose that it should be done? One vote for each
system? Then the people with big systems are going to say they should carry
more weight then people with small systems. One vote for a certain dollar
amount of support? Then one big system has more weight then several small
ones. Also, you would have reduced the "popular vote" to only people with
current direct HP support contracts. There can be arguments made for and
against any method of measuring.
3) "If two ballots from the same company are submitted only the first one
will be counted."
So, if I as the CEO of my company wish to cast a vote, but my graveyard
operator was once mesmerized by Birket at a seminar (trust me, it can
happen) and decides to vote for him before I can get my vote in, that's
too bad for me, right? I don't think that's appropriate.
[Jon Backus]> It is outlined on the ballot that there is one vote per
company. If your night time operator thinks he has the right to speak for
your whole company, that's an internal problem.
Because I love the 3000 and know a lot of folks for whom it is the only
platform with which they work, I would like the OpenMPE movement to have as
much force as it can. Unfortunately, I don't think things like this ballot
help to lend credibility to the organization or to the concept of a
sustainable, open MPE. Just so you know, I've only recently tried to join
the Yahoo OpenMPE group, and it's possible that a discussion (in which I
could have been involved if I were a member) of how to perform the vote was
entertained in that group at some previous time, but I can't tell since the
archive is private (how about making it "open").
[Jon Backus]> Please remember, no voting system is perfect. We can pick it
apart all day long if we want, or we can try to get something done. I am
truly sorry that I was not able to devise an perfect system, but then I take
comfort in the fact that no one has ever been able to do so, yet.
Regards,
Adam Dorritie
Easy Does It Technologies LLC
(702) 270-6402
http://www.editcorp.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Jonathan M. Backus
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:53 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: OpenMPE Board of Directors Popular Vote
>
>
> The initial members of the OpenMPE corporation will be
> selected by a
> popular vote starting at 7:00 AM (EST) Monday, January 7th, 2002
> and ending
> 48 hours later. The rules of voting are listed at the top of the ballot.
> The OpenMPE company is intended to be a company owned and operated by its
> employees, end-users of the MPE operating system, and vendors that have
> applications, utilities, or support functions that depend on the MPE/iX
> operating system. If you company falls into any of these categories then
> it's vote should be heard.
>
> Details of the OpenMPE movement:
> http://www.techgroupmd.com/OpenMPE.htm
>
> Details about the candidates:
> http://www.techgroupmd.com/OpenMPEBoardVN.htm
>
> The OpenMPE Ballot:
> http://www.techgroupmd.com/OpenMPEBallot.htm
>
> Thanx,
> Jonathan (Jon) M. Backus, MPE-CSM ~ President
> Tech Group ~ 15 Catawba Place ~ Hagerstown, MD ~ 21742-6515
> Email: [log in to unmask] ~ AIM: JMBackus
> Vmail: 301.988.0614 ~ Fmail: 301.714.1854
> Web: www.TechGroupMD.com
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