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Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]>
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Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:20:57 -0500
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1)  Admit that if it weren't for the USA Europe would have been under
the Nazi heel a lot longer, maybe for several generations, maybe forever.

This is such a stupid argument, without Europe's help, Germany, Italy and
Japan might have beaten the US in a war, you can't just say one country won
the war, it was a combined effort and it's sad that you keep ignoring that.
Thousand of events took place that perhaps you are not aware of.  It wasn't
just about money, troops and equipment.

2)  Don't cry 'arrogance' when the USA saves another country from a tyrant.

Just cry hypocrisy when the US supports and funds another tyrant as it's
good for business.  Can you give one example where America has removed a
tyrant to save the people of that country, rather than for it's own
interests.

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I did not say the USA won the war alone, I said without the USA Europe
would have been under the Nazi heel a lot longer.  It is right there
in plain language.

I am not as sure as you that the Axis could have beaten the USA, but
probably.  Too much depends on how prepared the USA might have been, and
how much resistance still remained in Europe, how many mistakes the Axis
might have made.  If you make the absurd assumtion that all conquered
areas gave no more resistance, and the unconquered areas were strictly
neutral, then the USA probably could not have held up.

I cannot name any conflict the USA was in which there was no possible
benefit to the USA, it is absurd to even suggest there is, and I never
said there was.

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I mentioned the countries "Australia, New Zealand, Poland, Czechoslovakia,
Hungary, France, Russia, Belgium, India, Britain,  Canada, Sweden, Norway,
Denmark, Finland, etc saved America from speaking German/Japanese."

Brice wrote " Most of the rest were part of the UK, so that is just a
literary trick on your part to take what is essentially one nation and name
it several times.  And Finland?  Please explain that?"

I am very confused by your remark Brice, especially "Most of the rest were
part of the UK". I suppose you could mention India as it wasn't yet
independent, but still I wouldn't describe it as part of the UK.

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Australia, New Zealand, India, Canada and Britain were all part of the UK.
I am sure you will want to disallow some of these due to a technicality,
but I don't accept it.

You have even included pro-Axis nations in your list.  How is helping the
Axis forces of benefit to the Allied forces?

So I have to say -I- am confused by -YOUR- remark.

Name one country besides the UK and the USSR which was not occupied by
the Axis forces and resisted the Axis.

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