Dave,
I don't think you've offended anybody, especially Wirt, but I'm sure you'll
find out from him if you did.
I didn't intend to offend you, either, but I'm sorry if I did. I DID intend
to make you aware of the actual topic of the moment, which seemed (seems?)
to have escaped you.
I think Wirt and probably everybody else saw WHAT YOU WROTE, not WHAT YOU
MEANT.
Re what goes on-list & not, good luck figuring out that pesky email client.
Re your original serious question, I'd suggest typing "Fiorina" into the
search window of your favorite web browser. Or you could try sending her an
email (off list, of course).
Tracy Pierce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Darnell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:58 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
>
>
> Hey, Tracy, I wasn't offended by Wirt's reply, or anything
> else. Boise
> jokes usually bear some implication that Boise is a small,
> insignificant,
> boring place (like, maybe they don't have that many HP
> employees there), so
> I pointed out why I thought it was a Boise joke. Then, I
> continued on the
> Boise joke path because I thought there was still some "humor
> value" left in
> it.
>
> Yes, sometimes when I reply to a post from the list, and the
> list address is
> not in the to: or cc: or bcc: field, my reply still ends up
> posted to the
> list. Why? I don't know.
>
> Really, anyone would understand me better if they looked at
> what I write as
> opposed to what they guess I am implying. Although this list
> can get really
> entertaining and I sometimes participate for the fun of it, I
> was serious
> about my original question. I did not intend to start a
> debate or make a
> political statement. I am looking for legitimate reports of
> the nature I
> requested.
>
> My question is germane from a business or commercial
> perspective, I believe.
>
> If I've offended Wirt, I apologize, but I'd rather address it
> with him than
> his advocate.
>
> -Dave
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:28 AM
> > To: Dave Darnell; [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
> >
> >
> > Dave wrote...
> > > Well, saying *the* Boise employee pretty
> > > well runs with the gist of Boise jokes in general.
> >
> > I don't get the Boise joke reference, but I do get this: YOU
> > said "the Boise
> > employee", not Wirt; he simply humorized your grammatical gaffe.
> >
> > > Here's the response I sent to Mr. Gary Sielaff. I still
> > > can't reliably control what goes to the list and what does not!
> >
> > Gary asked his (and mine too) question on-list because your
> quote was
> > on-list. To control what goes on-list, try avoiding pushing
> > the Send button
> > when HP3000-L shows in the 'To' box of your email client.
> >
> > That petty BS aside, I defer to J Rosenblatt's question, but
> > prefer the form
> > "Where's the beef?"
> >
> > Tracy Pierce
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Darnell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:35 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, saying *the* Boise employee pretty well runs with the
> > > gist of Boise
> > > jokes in general.
> > >
> > > Here's the response I sent to Mr. Gary Sielaff. I still
> > > can't reliably
> > > control what goes to the list and what does not!
> > >
> > > HP has some posters in their buildings showing a picture of a
> > > regular guy
> > > with his SUV and dog and other regular guy stuff. Caption is
> > > something to
> > > the effect of 'loves to fish, camp, play softball' and other
> > > regular guy
> > > stuff. On same poster next to the picture is the same
> > > picture again, but
> > > this time the poster says "Gay". These posters were in
> > > common areas such as
> > > hallways and break areas.
> > >
> > > So, one guy decides to take a copy of this picture and put a
> > > few biblical
> > > scriptures below instead of the original HP text. The
> > > scriptures were not
> > > offensive by themselves unless you just get offended by
> > > scripture, but in
> > > context with the gay implication, they were a counterpoint to
> > > the assertion
> > > that gay is OK. He posted it on his outside cubicle wall, if
> > > I remember
> > > from the article, where you "couldn't help but look at it if
> > > you walked down
> > > the hall. Management asked him, I guess, three times to take
> > > them down. He
> > > refused each time. He was fired.
> > >
> > > The gentleman is a resident of Eagle, ID.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:08 AM
> > > > To: Dave Darnell; [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: RE: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > > Wirt was joking not re Boise, but re _your_ quote, "...such
> > > > as the recent
> > > > firing of the Boise HP employee." in which you imply that
> > > > there was one HP
> > > > employee. Of course we all know better than that, so maybe
> > > > you'd like to
> > > > satisfy the curiousity you've piqued by answering the
> > > > question posed, "What
> > > > happened in Boise?".
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Tracy har har Pierce
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dave Darnell
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:26 AM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good Boise joke Wirt! Being a some-times Boisean I've heard
> > > > a lot of 'em.
> > > >
> > > > Traditionally, HP has many thousands of employees at it's
> > > > Boise facilities.
> > > >
> > > > -dtd
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wirt Atmar [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:00 AM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary asks:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What happened in Boise? (My home town).
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently *the* hp employee was fired.
> > > > >
> > > > > Heck, I didn't even know the division had been so severely
> > > > downsized.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave wrote earlier:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My purpose is to correlate such perceptions with changes in
> > > > > > HP's internal politics, policies, and actions (such as the
> > > > > recent firing of
> > > > > > the Boise HP employee.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Wirt Atmar
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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