I must weigh in on the wordprocessor model (sorry Wirt). Many times a day I
am printing files and copying parts of lines to then paste and add to, to
make a new command, in that other emulator.

Tony White

If everything seems under control,
you're just not going fast enough. --
Mario Andretti



-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ashton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:01 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Pasting returns (was: It's greek to me)


Wirt,
  First, what terminal did you use to base your concept of how cut-and-paste
should work on a terminal?  Cut-and-paste is, unless I'm sadly mistaken, a
windows (and I use the term generally) concept.  The rules you defined may
be
simple, but they don't work for the user.

> While this current behavior of QCTerm is not written in stone, I find it
so
> nice and so pleasant and efficient to use that I would recommend that you
> give it a fair try. After that, your comments would be sincerely
appreciated.

I have and Stan has.  Now it's your turn.  Change it so that it works "like
a
wordprocessor" in all modes and see if you don't like it very nearly as
well.
The *only* difference, so far as I can tell is that you will have to hit one
more return after you do the paste in some cases.  We're used to that and
would
gladly make that move for the ability to be able to cut and paste lines
without
ending CRs at the command line.

Ted

P.S.  You said,
>
> In both cases, the overwhelming likelihood will be that future users will
be
> using the Cntl+C/Cntl+V key sequences that are now common to virtually
every
> PC program (AOL, Netscape, MSIE, Notepad, MS Word, etc.), but that
> presumption isn't "necessary" in the mathematical sense. There are several
> ways to engage the cut-and-paste features of QCTerm (using the pull-down
> menus, using the ALT keys, etc.) and the user is free to chose among them.
>
The user is still not free to choose the method which is natural to
long-term
Windows users (Ctl-Ins, Shift-Ins, etc.)  You could, with only a minor
effort
now support those as well and make at least one person a lot happier.  When
I'm
in "Transmit Control Characters to Host" mode, Ctl-V and Ctl-C aren't an
option, obviously, and so I *have* to use the menu <*yuck*>.
--
Ted Ashton ([log in to unmask]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University
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Nobody since Newton has been able to use geometrical methods to the same
extent for the like purposes; and as we read the Principia we feel as when
we are in an ancient armoury where the weapons are of gigantic size; and as
we look at them we marvel what manner of man he was who could use as a
weapon what we can scarcely lift as a burden.
                         -- Whewell