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In message <[log in to unmask]>, Dave Vogt 
<[log in to unmask]> writing at 21:38:45 in his/her local time 
opines:-
>Sometimes, I just get stuck.  The boss gives me big things to take care of,
>and I love it.
>
>I love Beechglen, and everybody on this site, but boy, this problem has me not
>sleeping at night, and the office hates it when I don't get any sleep.  I
>whimper at my computer terminal, and then get on line and ignore my HP3000
>baby.
>
>I know somebody out here is going to help me on this one.
>
>Maybe somebody at Beachglen is going to call me up on the phone in the
>morning and go "dave, here are the settings you big dummy".
>
>I love those guys!!!
>
>Anyways, here goes...
>
>We use ATM's that are hooked into our network that we use to pay our
>customers with (not important, but just so you know what is going on here).
>
>We use Magtek MT-80 and MT-95's to encode the cards.  These are RS-232
>devices.  I use Lantronix UDs-10 and the new UDS-1100 serial over IP
>devices.  VERY COOL THINGS!!!
>
>Doug (at Beachglen) and I figured out how to make a console work with these
>neat little divices.
>
>My first major attack at this job is to alway make sure I can get a connection
>to the HP3000 system on a ATP port.  4800 baud, no parity, 7 bits, 1 dada
>dada. and I get it over the Lantronix perfect.  I get a nice clean 
>connection.
>BTW, I have the Magtek MT-80's and MT-95's  working fine.
>
>My vendor (Tranzact) out of Florida talked me into using the less expensive
>encoders, the MT-85 which I did not blink a eye too.  These are cute little
>things.  I said, NO PROBLEMBO!!!
>
>Well, PROBLEMBO, big time!!!!!
>
>I have a perfect connection through reflections on the ATP port, but this darn
>thing or the HP3000 are like a bad marriage.  They just refuse to talk to one
>another.
>
>I hook the encoder to the back to the PC on the serial port and I can read my
>credit card.  But darn it, the marrage between the HP3000 and this machine
>and the Lantronix, WOW...I need a preist.
>
>I'm going to try to get Lantronix and Magtek on the phone together in the
>morning, but if anybody out there has any idea's, give me a whistle.
>
>The set up is, MT-85 to Lantronx, to network, to Lantronx, to HP3000.  I have
>MT-80 and MT-95 set up the same way and they all work.
>
>First correct response gets a beer from Milwaukee, Wisconsin!!!!!
>
>Dave Vogt
>Miller Compressing Company
>Manager, Info Services
>414-290-6527
>(I would put my cell phone here, but some crazy nut will be calling me all day)
>:)
>
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Put a breakout box between an MT-80 or MT-90 and the Lantronix. Full 
25-pins connected, watch the lights when they are talking.

Do the same with the MT-85. Any differences? Pins pulled up, or down, 
that aren't with the '80 or 90?

ATP is just three pins - sometimes devices need their CTS pin, or 
whatever, pulled up before they'll talk, and TX/RX/GND isn't enough.

What does the MT-85 manual say about how you connect it serially? Any 
significant difference from what's in the '80 or '90 manual?

What do Tranzact say? I don't know how it goes over the pond, but here 
in the UK, we expect the vendor to step up when their promises go 
bad.....

Going back a ways, Alan Yeo and I used to debug the more intractable 
serial stuff with an MS-DOS program and a special cable, so a PC could 
sit in the middle of the link and tell us what was going on, for all the 
world like a super breakout box rolled up with a 90's progenitor of 
Wireshark.

Wonder if he's still got it somewhere? :-)
-- 
Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  William Morris

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