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Yes, there is even a word for injuries caused by doctors - iatrogenic.
jp

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Tracy Pierce
Sent: Wed, March 06, 2002 11:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
Sensitivity: Confidential


at which link you'll immediately notice that it claims 250,000 people are
killed by doctors each year.  that's broken down into large categories, the
largest of which is 80,000 killed by infections occurring in hospitals (and
notice that the footnote hyperlink takes you to a completely unrelated
paper).

That means the doctor kills you by putting you in the hospital, right?

Tracy



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:47 AM
> To: Tracy Pierce; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> Sensitivity: Confidential
>
>
> look at:
>
> http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> Sensitivity: Confidential
>
>
> did you just make that up?  of course not.  who what's your source?
>
> Tracy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Mc Coy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:26 AM
> > To: Tracy Pierce; [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > Sensitivity: Confidential
> >
> >
> > Every year in the U.S. more than 100,000 people die as a
> > direct result of mistakes made by doctors.
> > In addition to that, thousands more are injured/maimed.
> > Surgical patients get the wrong organs removed, the wrong
> > lims amputated.  There are also those who end up going in for
> > something like a tonsilectomy and get a leg amputated because
> > someone mixed the charts up.
> >
> > jm
> > >
> > > From: Tracy Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: 2002/03/06 Wed AM 11:16:17 EST
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > >
> > > I rather doubt that RNader said "killed by doctors".  It
> > would be a valid
> > > and inflammatory statistic to point out that huge numbers
> > of people die when
> > > "in the care of doctors", but I don't know if that's
> > Nader's style or not.
> > >
> > > More people should emulate Woody Allen's immortality ploy:
> > don't die!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Guy HPTraderOnline [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:41 AM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: OT: 100 Years
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just went to a talk on Homeopathic medicine last night.
> > > > The speaker said
> > > > that at the turn of the last century, you could get a
> > > > homeopathic health kit
> > > > in the Sears catalog.  The AMA convinced politicians that
> > > > they were the
> > > > going concern and every other attempt at healing amounted to
> > > > quackery.  I
> > > > heard a while ago, Ralph Nader said that more people are
> > > > killed each year by
> > > > doctors than the total number of American soldiers who died
> > > > in the Vietnam
> > > > Conflict.
> > > >
> > > > Guy
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Andreas Schmidt" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >
> > > > > Ninety percent of all U.S. Physicians  had no college
> education.
> > > > Instead, they attended medical schools,  many of which were
> > > > > condemned in the press and by the government as
> "substandard."
> > > > >
> > > >
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