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Chris Breemer <[log in to unmask]>
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Chris Breemer <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi All,

I have some minor quibbles with shell-iX and ftp on MPE 5.5.

The posix shell is so slow in reading my keyboard input that I am forced to
type _slowly_ otherwise characters will get lost at random. Apart from this,
it seems type-ahead is disabled. This would also explain why cut and paste
with the mouse between hpterm's does not work like it does on HP-UX (I am
using hpterm and vt3k to connect to MPE from a HP9000 workstation).

To run ftp from the shell, I created a symlink /usr/bin/ftp -> /SYS/ARPA/FTP.
This basically works fine, except for a couple of things. The program seems
to ASSUME that it's being run from the CI. It still creates files as
fixed-length MPE files, which does not make much sense in the HFS. Also
it treats remote UNIX filenames as MPE names, also inappropriate here. I
can get around these things using the commands "bytestream" and "case",
resprectively. Now when I do an "mget ./*" all files get here fine.
But trouble starts when the remote system has subdirectories. Ftp is not
supposed to read these, but it does, and seems to get confused. I get MPE
messages like NON-EXISTING GROUP. Why would ftp read subdirectories? Can this
be prevented ?

To avoid having to enter "bytestream" and "case" every time, is there
some option that tells ftp that it should do hfs stuff only ? I am definitely
not interested in MPE file names and types etc. when working in the hfs.

If in ftp I execute a shell command, like ":ls", the command is executed
by the CI rather than the shell. I find this counter-intiuitive. Could this
be changed somehow ?

I seem to have intermittent problems with vi. Sometimes on saving a file
spurious lines are added at the back. I can only get rid of these by copying
the file to a new file and editing that one instead. Has anybody seen this?

Last question: The HP supportline web page only lists patches
for MPE 5.0. Are there none for 5.5 ?

Thanks for any ideas !
--

:)
Chris Breemer                   [log in to unmask]
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