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John Pitman <[log in to unmask]>
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Similar things happen in Arabic, where the encodings of Windows and HP
differ in more than half the character set. If the HP or windows systems are
only used in transition, nothing goes wrong, but if the data originates on
one system, and you wish to use it on the other, you must translate the
character set to retain sense in the data.

jp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wirt Atmar" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Russian on MPE


> Allen asks:
>
> > Does anyone know how/if Cyrillic characters can be displayed using
> Reflection
> > 6.0 connecting to MPE.  I have a MS-Word document but I cannot seem to
save
> > it in an encoded format and uploaded to the HP and still get it to
display
> > correctly in Reflection.  Any ideas?
>
> The basic problem, I suspect, is that you are scrambling the encoding
going
> between your PC and the HP3000. In MS Word, you're most likely using a
variant
> of the ISO Latin encoding scheme, but where the Cyrillic characters have
been
> put into the Latin alphabet's places, just as the Symbol set has been for
the
> Greek alphabet. (Look at the Windows Character Map for the Symbols and
compare
> it to a standard MS font such as Arial).
>
> If you upload that that document using Reflection, Reflection is likely to
> autotranslate the ISO Latin positions into HP's Roman 8/9 encodings
(depending
> on how you have your settings configured). That's all right so long as you
> never attempt to read the file on the HP3000 itself. When you bring it
back down
> to your PC, using Reflection again, Reflection will autotranslate all of
the
> material back into its original ISO Latin positions in the character table
and
> you should be all right.
>
> However, if you've uploaded the MS Word file to the HP3000 using a process
> like FTP, FTP doesn't autotranslate anything. The text is on the HP3000 in
an MS
> encoding. When you attempt to download this version using Reflection, you
> will likely get the autotranslation mode by default -- and a completely
scrambled
> character set.
>
> You should be able to make the entire process work in Reflection, even if
> your Cryllic document is encoded using a Unicode (2-byte) format. You just
have
> to ensure that both the uptransport and downtransport of the document is
being
> done in a symmetric manner.
>
> Wirt Atmar
>
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