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Charles Finley <[log in to unmask]>
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It might not matter what they decide to do.  The marketplace has probably
already decided for them.  Last night, at the invitiation of Tom Emerson who
is also on this listserver,  I attended a the monthly San Gabriel Valley
Linux User's Group meeting in the Pasadena, Ca.  There had been rain all day
and, even by L.A. standards, the traffic was pretty bad.  There were about
30 people there.  It was described to me as a light to medium attendance.

The topic was databases.  I spoke on DB2 for Linux and how we use it at
Transformix.  Another gentleman spoke on a Web application he developed
using the freeware tools Firbird (Interbase) RDBMS, the Apache Web server
and Python.  This guy had not been working with any of these concepts long
yet he was able to build a useful Web and database application using
resources available on the Web.  I was impressed.  While it is possible to
do this with HP-UX, it can be "challenging" if something goes wrong.  This
is mainly due to the fact that if you have a problem with Linux, there's a
whole world out there eager to provide you with free technical assistance.

Speaking of assistance, Tom told us that the Cerritos Linux User's Group
(another L.A. area group) periodically has an installation and configuration
meeting.  Therefore, if you're having problems with you Linux installation,
you bring you machine in and get others to help you get it working right.

I have two Linux servers.  One is on a laptop and the other is a desktop.
Linux is my platform of choice for testing software.  Primarily because any
software I want to use seems to run on Linux and there are pre-installed
binaries available for it.  Installation is very simple with RPM and if I
have to compile, the compile usually works the first time.

We are able to run MPE/IMAGE/VPlus applications on Linux using our migration
toolset.  Therefore, if someone wants to see a UNIX demonstration of the use
of our migration tools and its run-time environment.  They usually get to
see it on Linux first.

Linux is the path of least resistance folks.  Moreover, if you're plugged
into IBM, the world get's even better.  IBM has an almost mind boggling
amount of information available for Linux users.  Most of it, almost all of
it, appliies to Linux used on any platform you choose.  IBM offers Linux on
Intel, the iSeries (as400), mainframes and they even let you run Linux
applications under AIX (the IBM Unix).


Charles Finley
Transformix Computer Corporation
Oceanside, CA
(760) 439-3146

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Mark Landin
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:17 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: HP-UX Obsolescense
>
>
>  On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:31:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time), Eric Sand
> - STL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Hi Folks,
> >    I just heard it through some reliable sources that HP is set
> to annouce
> >the obsolescense of HP-UX in favor of Linux. Any takers?
>
> Identify your sources and I'll be able to decide.
>
> Until I hear Winston Prather ... uh, I mean Carly ... say it, I won't
> believe it. HP-UX will not be killed the way MPE was, simply because
> the business environment ("ecosystem") for HP-UX is very much
> different from the one MPE lived in.
>
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