It's my understanding that Southwest has exactly one (1) type of equipment, the Boeing 737, for which a single type rating applies to every single model of that plane, including the 737 Max which was actually the reason all those people died because Boeing was under pressure to certify the Max under the same type rating as all previous 737 models so that they could sell them to Southwest without suddenly requiring them to maintain two different pools of aircrew which they probably would not do. Hence the automated augmentation system that was designed to force the Max to behave like other 737s but which ended up causing fatal problems.
G.
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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Jack Rubin
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] First Southwest, Now FAA?
Also, SWA has a greater variety of equipment, making it harder to match appropriately trained crews with equipment. Lots of unintended consequences once things start to unravel.
Jack
> On Jan 11, 2023, at 8:19 PM, Mark Landin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> I read a lot more about the Southwest Airlines issue. SWA, unlike most
> carriers, still runs their flights as a point-to-point network rather
> than a hub and spike network. This makes it more efficient in many
> ways but also makes it much more fragile and harder to start back up after a disruption.
> Given those constraints it’s unlikely any computer system would have
> made much of a positive difference.
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> The informative discussion I read can be found here:
> https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/how-difficult-is-it-to-program-a
> -restart-of-southwest-airlines-point-to-point-system-after-a-major-ser
> vice-disruption.1488902/
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 19:11 Tracy Johnson <
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>> Two things that went down yesterday, I'm implying HP3000 guilt by
>> coincidence.
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>> On 1/11/23 20:09, Mark Ranft wrote:
>>> Does the Royal Mail use HP3000s?
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>>> Mark Ranft
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>>>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 12:42 PM, Tracy Johnson<
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>>>> May I be the first to raise there the same question about the FAA
>>>> as
>> there was about Southwest during Christmas?
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>>>> Does anybody know if the FAA (was: Southwest) is still using the HP
>> 3000 platform at all? I read in the news (was: heard some employees)
>> blaming their technology for some of their current problems.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and we can add the Royal Mail.
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