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Hi Kent,

My apologies, I didn't intend the $10,000 figure as a quote or anything,
just a nice round number to use as a starting point.  I also don't know
how many private homes there are in the United States.

I guess what I wanted to say, but didn't, was that for an amount of
money roughly equivalent to the amount the government is willing to
shell out to keep banks and big institutions afloat, we could keep
actual Americans afloat.  A great deal of oil is spent powering
electrical plants, home furnaces, and so on, likely enough (though I
don't know the actual figures) to reduce our dependence on foreign
sources of petroleum to near zero.

Yes, cars we buy today and yesterday still need gas, but cars we buy
tomorrow may need much less and if we didn't burn it up making
electricity and heat we could have enough for our transportation needs.

Thanks for pointing out that the numbers are not correct, I'm sure you
have a much better idea of what the cost truly is, but even if it costs
twice as much it seems to me to be a worthwhile investment.

Regards,
Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Kent Wallace
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Alternative energy

Waite a minute.   

I have two sons who are studying how to install solar panels on homes to
replace the electrical needs.   A company in Oregon is making the panels
for cheap.  The cost I heard was closer to 20,000, if I remember each
individual panel was 600$.  It takes some panels and equipment to make
the whole thing work.

The idea is to sell back power during the day to cover the cost of
electricity used at night.  

I am as green as the next guy with common sense (many greens think
funny) but, these panels do not power a car.  This is existing
technology.  The people who own these panels still need gas for there
cars to get to work to pay 20K for the panels.

The question arises; does the interest on 20K exceed the cost of your
monthly power bill?

Kent

Kent Wallace - Business Intelligence Developer
Healthcare Management Administrators Inc
Phone - 425-289-5267
 

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Hoxsie, Howard
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Alternative energy

Shawn, I agree with you completely.  It sort of staggers me to say that,
but there it is.

If we spent $10,000 on each of 70,000,000 homes in the US (even the
northern ones would benefit) we could be stop sending $$$ to the middle
East and Venezuela and the cost would be $700 Billion, and the money
would be spent hiring manufacturers and installers right here in the US,
who could then pay their mortgages on time, stop going to the ER instead
of a much cheaper doctor's office, and so on.

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Shawn Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:22 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Alternative energy

this is what I've been waiting for.  If the government just flat out 
paid to put these on the roofs of every house and building in all the 
"sunshine" states instead of rebates and crap like that, you'd 
basically solve domestic energy.

At 11:18 AM 10/22/2008, Craig Lalley wrote:
>For those of you that think solar is the way to go...
>
>New solar cell material achieves almost 100% efficiency, could solve 
>world-wide energy problems
>
>http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39807/113/
>
>-Craig
>
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Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
theKompany.com
www.thekompany.com
www.mindawn.com
949-713-3276

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