On the subject of civil debate -- and the subject of who was the true
originator of the quote, "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" -- it's
interesting to note that precisely the same subject come up in the Australian
Parliament just a year ago, using the full resources of the Parliment's
Library.

The transcript of the discussion is at:

     http://hansard.www.act.gov.au/1998/week04/1054.htm

We can all take a lesson from these gentlemen on how to conduct a truly
civilized discussion of the facts.

Wirt Atmar