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So the wind blows stongly at night?

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:32:30 -0300, Gary Nolan 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>We have and interesting project being started here in Cape Breton. They are
>going to use wind turbines to generate power in the day for the grid and in
>the night use the excess power to pump water uphill to supply hydro power
>also in the day. This company previously built wind turbines built next to
>the Lingan (a coal) power generation plant so distribution to the grid was
>simplified. The following link tells all the details.
>
>http://www.novascotialife.com/node/329
>
>Is anyone would like a brief on the stats of the project I just received a
>one pager on this project the other day, email me.
>
>There are also plans to build wind turbines in the Cheticamp area were we
>get some of the highest winds in the province. I don't know how the plan to
>keep the turbines together with the high wind gusts they get regularly
>called les suetes with wind gusts 50 to 120 km per hour and wind storms as
>high as 150 mph. Here is a link about it
>
>http://cheticamp.ca/en/climate.php
>
>
>
>Gary Nolan
>Faculty Applied Arts and New Media
>Nova Scotia Community College
>
>PS I know it has been seven years since I worked with HP 3000 but this group
>is so interesting I am still lurking.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
Behalf
>Of Bahrs, Art
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:47 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Wind turbines
>
>Hi Denys and All :)
>  We have an interesting situation up here in the NW (rainy, windy, you
>don't want to move here NW!!! Hehehe)
>
>  The wind turbines (the wind mill thingies hehe) are generating too
>much power!!!  When combined with the hydro power we have (Roll On
>Columbia!) ... We have too much power for the current distribution
>system (read high power line system) ...
>
>  They want to build more wind turbines but are having to figure out how
>to handle all this horribly green and renewable power... Oh what shall
>we do???
>
>   Actually, wind, wave and geothermal power are awesome alternatives,
>but as Al Gore (yep Art is quoting Al!!) pointed out quietly last
>week... It is gonna be EXPENSIVE to convert our infrastructure over from
>the current configuration.
>
>   Interestingly also is the renewed interest in nuclear power since
>they blew the facility (cooling tower) at Trojan Oregon's only nuclear
>power plant.
>
>Art "we return you all to the normally scheduled election year rants :)
>" Bahrs
>
>Thanks,
>Art
>Art Bahrs, CISSP
>Security Engineer
>Providence Health & Services
>[log in to unmask]
>Phone: 503-216-2722
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:31 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: OT: Wind turbines
>
>I'm not sure I understand, the wind turbines do not seem to turn very
>fast.
>I'm sure that when the wind blows at 50-60MPH or more, they turn faster
>but birds should not be flying in those winds; I think it's against FAA
>regulations for them to do so.
>
>Has Holland been avian-free?
>
>The big issue with the wind turbine farms is that they are very far from
>where their produced energy is required.  This will require huge swaths
>of land to be dedicated to transmission lines and these bring their own
>problems.
>
>I take you back in history (oh no, not another history lesson!) to 1998.
>You can read about it here.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Ice_Storm
>
>The issue is that most of the electricity in that region comes from dams
>far away on the La Grande (James Bay) and Manicouagan rivers.  I know
>these very well, I worked as a surveyor in the early 1970s in both
>locations.  If you look here:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bay_Project, I worked in the summer
>of 1973 (4 months) on the building of the road mentioned in The Early
>Steps.
>
>In 1974, worked on the building of the Manic-2 dam mentioned in this
>link
>here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Manicouagan.  I worked on the
>dam directly.
>
>I am here to tell you these places are very far away from anywhere..
>
>Montreal in 1998 was fed by 7 power transmission lines coming from there
>over several hundreds of miles.  The ice storm dropped 6 of the 7
>transmission lines for many miles and Montreal and surroundings went
>dark for a month or more in the middle of winter.
>
>Denys...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Kent Wallace
>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:07 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Wind turbines
>
>I am apposed to Wind Turbines for environmental reasons.
>
>
>
>They kill innocent birds!
>
>
>
>LOL
>
>Kent Wallace
>
>
>
>Kent Wallace - Business Intelligence Developer
>
>Healthcare Management Administrators Inc
>
>Phone - 425-289-5267
>
>
>
>
>
>
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