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Speaking of Surgeons, the U.S. Surgeon General doesn't 
necessarily have to be a "surgeon" does he, just a doctor
of any stripe.

Speaking of Education degrees, didn't there used to be
an oddball California law that those who had "Education" 
degrees weren't allowed to teach, just administrate?  Or
was it my imagination?

BT


Tracy Johnson
MSI Schaevitz Sensors 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Gates, Scott
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] It's political season
> 
> 
> While I can see some benefits to electing a superintendent, 
> being able to
> choose from a huge pool of politicians and outside 
> administrators from the
> business sector--I can also see a downside.  Schools are not 
> factories,
> anymore than students are inventory.  I suppose the system works in
> Florida--has it ALWAYS been like that in Florida? But 
> shouldn't a school
> administrator have some experience in schools?  Maybe a 
> degree in education?
> Perhaps a few years banging chalk and dealing with students?
> 
> How far can we take this 'outsiders are experts' trend, I 
> wonder?  Would you
> want an 'elected' surgeon?
> "I'd like to introduce you to the man who will be doing your 
> surgery, today.
> He won the county election by a landslide and everyone who's 
> met him say
> he's a swell guy.  --er--what's that?  Credentials?  Well, 
> -er- the voters
> have spoken. Does he REALLY need training, experience, and 
> expertise in -er-
> physiology and anatomy, and all that gross medical stuff?  He won by a
> landslide."
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holli [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:21 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] It's political season
> 
> 
>  http://www.floridakeysnews.info
> It's political season
> The ink had not even dried on the qualifying papers Friday 
> before politics
> began to raise its ugly head in Monroe County with the 
> resignation of a
> deputy school superintendent. This political season is off to a good
> mudslinging start. Incumbent School Supt. John Padget has 
> been under fire
> since his appointment last year to the position by Gov. Jeb Bush. A
> businessman, not an educator or politician, Padget was just 
> beginning his
> run for a full-term at the head of the county school system 
> when he was
> blasted broadside by one of his assistants - one that he 
> originally fought
> the school board to bring to Monroe County in the hopes of 
> cleaning up our
> school mess - and her husband. The irony in this is that neither Karen
> Hessel, nor her husband, seem to understand that voters in this county
> soundly defeated a proposition last year to let the school 
> board hire a
> superintendent and instead stuck with electing the school's 
> top person. (See
> story on Page 3.) Many of the members of our school board 
> have been having
> the same problem, especially since the governor appointed an 
> outsider to
> fill the unexpired superintendent's term. None of this is 
> doing anything
> good for our schools, which have plenty of problems on their 
> own. Nor does
> it bode well for voters giving the school their approval to 
> renew a tax that
> was dropped in order to shift funds from construction to 
> classrooms in the
> last election. The school board and superintendent may have 
> to wait awhile
> before they see that tax renewed. We don't think voters are 
> going to put up
> too long with this internal bickering in the school system. 
> Educators can't
> seem to accept the fact that we elect our school 
> superintendent here and
> that may mean we choose to have a non-educator, a person more 
> experienced in
> business, run our school system and look after our tax 
> dollars. If that is
> the voters' choice, so be it. It does not look from here like 
> the school
> superintendent's race, and possibly any of the school board 
> races, are going
> to be that clean and we hate to see that. These are the 
> people we hire to
> set examples for our youth and the examples they are setting 
> certainly are
> not ones of which we can be that proud.
 

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