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Cortlandt Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
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Cortlandt Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:25:10 -0600
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Greg,

With a bit of editing of your message I get:
"I spent the first half of my career on other platforms.   Since
starting to work with MPE, I have worked with with NT 3.51 thru W2K,
UNIX, OS/400, and MVS and
OS/390 on a mainframe.   My choice of MPE/iX for many applications is
an informed choice."

Nice quote.    It also give me some ideas about creating some credible
claims.

"Many of us have spend years developing and running applications on
other better  known operating systems.   In our experience, MPE/iX on
a HP 3000 is the platform of choice for many business applications."

- Cortlandt

"Stigers, Greg [And]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
news:39a17dee$1_2@skycache-news.fidnet.com...
> X-no-Archive:yes
> > HP knows about MPE very well.
> I do not know what Carly does or does not know. And I doubt you do.
If by HP
> you mean management, it is easy to believe that they are preoccupied
with
> other "hot" issues, and hard to believe that most of us here have
any idea
> what they know. If by HP you mean HP, too many of us have had the
experience
> of talking with someone at HP who seemed to know little or nothing
about
> MPE. This may be due to HP's internal autonomies.
>
> > You don't want to see the writing on the wall because you love too
much
> what you are used to.
> I believe that all of us know at least one other platform. I don't
know of
> anybody who runs MPE and nothing else anywhere else. I understand
Blue Cross
> Blue Shield is a good sized organization, running a few things in
their
> shops. I spent the first half of my career on other platforms. The
3000 was
> not my first "minicomputer". And, since starting to work with MPE, I
have
> also had experience with NT 3.51 thru W2K, more UNIXen, OS/400, and
MVS and
> OS/390 on a mainframe. And I am not saying this to brag; with all
that,
> there are list members whose experience, in breadth and depth, make
me look
> like a rank amateur. For most of us, it's an informed choice. We see
more
> than the writing on the wall; we see what works.
>
> > Your cost effectiveness versus functionality and available
software in
> other platforms can not stand for a
> > minute.   I love MPE as much as you do but you can not blindly
ignore the
> fact that there are software
> > packages out there that outnumber the available ones to MPE.
> Off The Shelf apps may not be as common as we would like, and
selling those
> that are available has its own challenges. We believe that HP could
help
> this situation by not treating the 3000 like the unloved stepchild.
OTOH,
> how many of these apps are so trivial that they would max out on a
system
> equivalent to a 918? We looked at a billing application, that we
discovered
> was intended solely for a very small lawyers office, and started
struggling
> to track eight "resources". What a joke! It serves a small and
particular
> niche, but how long do you think that product will be around? How
many apps
> are bought, then outgrown, and painfully discarded? And, in addition
to some
> shining examples of OTS software, there is a world of custom
software that
> is the lifeblood of many companies. Isn't this largely what Y2K was
about?
> And having spent the time and money to ensure Y2K compliance, how
many
> companies are now going to choose to rehost?
>
> > That you run an airline reservation system with an HP system means
nothing
>
> > if the whole world runs their businesses in other platforms.
> Since the if is false, we can move right along...
>
> > Just some thoughts and wood to the fire.
> The lack of responses could mean that almost everybody else regards
these
> posts as trolling; some folks like to see their names in print. If
you
> choose to continue posting, try to be more respectful of the list
members,
> and try to give your postings some more thought.
>
> Greg Stigers
> http://www.cgiusa.com
>

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