<grin> Yes sysstartup_vms.com  is the startup file under OpenVMS.  I definitely meant SYSSTART.PUB.SYS.

Problem is on this system, the file is locked and it is near impossible to get it *unlocked* - at least my any method I have
been able to devise. Did get it unlocked one time, but I sure don't know how I did it. Tried all the stuff I can think of, like booting the machine into Single User mode, setting the automatic login to MANAGER.SYS, NOSYSSTART, etc.

The little bugger insists on refusing to allow the file to be edited. A listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9, even with the system in Single user mode, gives me this:

:listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9
********************
FILE: SYSSTART.PUB.SYS
6 Accessors(O:6,P:6,L:0,W:0,R:6),Share
#S7     MANAGER.SYS                P:2,L:0,W:0,R:2      REM : 216.110.21.130
 #P22    (CI.PUB.SYS)
   ACCESS: R-excl            REC#: 0                    FNUM: 9
    LOCKS: none
 #P48    (JSMAIN.PUB.SYS)
   ACCESS: R-excl            REC#: 14                   FNUM: 13
    LOCKS: none
...
...
...  [ more users here because I took this in multi-user mode ]
...
...
With multiple users logged in, there is one set of these for each user, and one for the JINETD streamed job that supplies TCP/IP services like a telnet server.

I *think* the problem may have something with the "R-excl"  - some kind of exclusive lock on the file. Not at all sure.

I did not initially understand that there was something - eh -  "odd" about the way this little system was behaving. It looks like
a real puzzle to me, but is probably some really simple answer.
:)

-Paul

>
>
>On Monday, October 06, 2008, at 12:39PM, "Stan Sieler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>Hi Paul,
>>Subject:        	[HP3000-L] How to edit the SYSSTARTUP.PUB.SYS file?
>>
>>There is no such file: non-HFS filenames are limited to 8 characters per
>>part, and "SYSSTARTUP" is a bit more than 8 :)
>>
>>If you're referring to SYSTART.PUB.SYS, then:
>>
>>1) logon as MANAGER.SYS (important...the OS checks the creator of that file
>>   as a security check)
>>
>>2) :editor        (or whatever editor you prefer....but EDITOR is MPE's vi...
>>                    free and on every system)
>>
>>   edit to your heart's content
>>
>>3) k
>>
>>   or
>>
>>    k sysstart, unn         (if making a new file)
>>
>>The "unn" means: keep the file unnumbered (you don't want sequence numbers
>>in columns 73..80!).
>>
>>Hope that helps,
>>
>>Stan
>>
>>--
>>Stan Sieler
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>>
>>
>>
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