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 Yes, I see 2 of them.
:cobolii
PAGE 0001   HP32233A.02.05  [74] Copyright Hewlett-Packard CO. 1989
and
:coboliix
PAGE 0001   HP32233A.02.05  [85] Copyright Hewlett-Packard CO. 1989
Do a :LISTF [log in to unmask],2 You will see a UDC file.  
Ah, the days of segmenter.
-Craig

    On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 10:45:12 AM PDT, Ricardo Monasterio <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
 
 Hello from Venezuela!

Wow, I downloaded the emulator. It is up and running. Lots of memories. I
believe it has the COBOL compiler integrated, right?

Thanks for this software. It is great to use MPE once again after so many
years.

Regards,

Ricardo Monasterio.

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> There are 4 messages totaling 263 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>  1. [TECH3000] [EXT]: A preview of coming attractions... (2)
>  2. [EXT]:  APL (and MPE) forever... (2)
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> Date:    Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:08:08 -0500
> From:    Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TECH3000] [EXT]: A preview of coming attractions...
>
> Yeah and the answers from the left are all fake.  :-)
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Stan Sieler
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:16 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [TECH3000] [EXT]: A preview of coming
> attractions...
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:30 AM Roy Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I figured APL would be your sort of thing, Denys, because it reads
> > from the right 😛
> >
> >
> But you don't get the answer until you move to the left :)
>
> Stan
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> Date:    Fri, 28 Aug 2020 21:49:24 +0100
> From:    Roy Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TECH3000] [EXT]: A preview of coming attractions...
>
>  you <- Ill reply that ,Denys
>
> Roy
>
> > On 28 Aug 2020, at 20:07, Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah and the answers from the left are all fake.  :-)
> >
> > Denys
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Stan Sieler
> > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:16 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [TECH3000] [EXT]: A preview of coming
> attractions...
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:30 AM Roy Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I figured APL would be your sort of thing, Denys, because it reads
> >> from the right 😛
> >>
> >>
> > But you don't get the answer until you move to the left :)
> >
> > Stan
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 29 Aug 2020 01:29:01 -0000
> From:    Gavin Scott <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [EXT]:  APL (and MPE) forever...
>
> External Email
> Hi all,
>
> Since Roy "announced" my little hobby project here (thank you Roy) I guess
> I can post a link here as well for people who want to play with it, with
> the caveat that there is no official license of any sort that I know of
> covering this 40-year-old HP software that has been floating around, so
> keep that in mind.
>
> For the last month or so I have been constructing a fully-appointed
> virtual Series III computer, using David Bryan's amazing Classic 1970s
> HP-3000 simulator/emulator along with the existing MPE V/R software that
> has been floating around with it, and the old CSL tapes collected by Kevin
> Miller and others. Most of this was available, but there was "some assembly
> required" to put it together into something usable. My goal was to produce
> a TurnKey version with exactly what you need that runs right out of the box.
>
> Along the way, I ended up hacking the simulator to make a Series III that
> supported 4x as much memory as any real one ever did, and
> reverse-engineered the APL microcode functionality in order to add
> emulation of those instructions to MPE so that APL\3000 could run again for
> the first time in 35 years or so.
>
> So, here is a (probably temporary so get it while you can) link to the new
> 1.4 version of "My Series III" for all your retro-MPE needs.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfUpk3R4OcuqReWXbKXnFwtJ62JDX16y
>
> All the instructions you need are in the associated README.txt file, and
> it takes only a minute or so to be up and running with MPE. You can
> optionally use Reflection (if you have it) or QCTerm (links to the free
> archived version and instructions in the README) to get full terminal
> functionality and run up to 15 user sessions via telnet to the virtual ATC
> ports on the Series III.
>
> This version includes fully working APL\3000 and my associated APL CPU
> Instruction Set emulation, as well as being a new model of HP-3000, which
> one might call a Series III+ (or even a Series IV) which has its memory
> "hardware" support increased to 8MB (4096K words) which is the same maximum
> amount of memory that MPE IV supported on the Series 64 in those days.
>
> One extra file is included with this version which is a PDF of the 1976
> APL\3000 Reference Manual since that has been so hard to find.
>
> One tip for playing with APL: Turn your CAPS LOCK on first.
>
> It also contains several metric crap-tons of old freeware including a
> complete GAMES account with all of the historically relevant software like
> Advent, Mansion, Dungeon, Warp, Trek73, DROID, and even the DRAGONS game
> written by a college kid who then used it to get a job at TSR where he
> contributed to the writing in many of their D&D products and later went on
> to be the lead designer for a little game called Skyrim.
>
> This is a five-disc system (you can add up to three more if you need more
> space, though there's about a million free sectors right now) with the
> directory expanded to 6,000 sectors  and various system tables expanded so
> you should not encounter any issues with it. It has been perfectly stable,
> staying up for weeks and pretty much never crashing or having any issue
> whatsoever.
>
> Hopefully one or two of you will have some fun with it.
>
> Feedback is appreciated.
>
> Gavin
> This message is not from a UTC.EDU address. Caution should be used in
> clicking links and downloading attachments from unknown senders or
> unexpected email.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:13:21 +0000
> From:    Craig Lalley <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [EXT]:  APL (and MPE) forever...
>
>  Gavin,
> I certainly enjoy playing with it and do appreciate your efforts.
> I realize how many memory cells I have lost.  I can barely remember some
> of the commands.
> I love the speed and the ability to have multiple virtual ATP sessions
> with Reflection.
> Very nice, thank you.
> The games do bring back memories.
> -Craig
>
>    On Friday, August 28, 2020, 06:39:09 PM PDT, Gavin Scott <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>  External Email
> Hi all,
>
> Since Roy "announced" my little hobby project here (thank you Roy) I guess
> I can post a link here as well for people who want to play with it, with
> the caveat that there is no official license of any sort that I know of
> covering this 40-year-old HP software that has been floating around, so
> keep that in mind.
>
> For the last month or so I have been constructing a fully-appointed
> virtual Series III computer, using David Bryan's amazing Classic 1970s
> HP-3000 simulator/emulator along with the existing MPE V/R software that
> has been floating around with it, and the old CSL tapes collected by Kevin
> Miller and others. Most of this was available, but there was "some assembly
> required" to put it together into something usable. My goal was to produce
> a TurnKey version with exactly what you need that runs right out of the box.
>
> Along the way, I ended up hacking the simulator to make a Series III that
> supported 4x as much memory as any real one ever did, and
> reverse-engineered the APL microcode functionality in order to add
> emulation of those instructions to MPE so that APL\3000 could run again for
> the first time in 35 years or so.
>
> So, here is a (probably temporary so get it while you can) link to the new
> 1.4 version of "My Series III" for all your retro-MPE needs.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfUpk3R4OcuqReWXbKXnFwtJ62JDX16y
>
> All the instructions you need are in the associated README.txt file, and
> it takes only a minute or so to be up and running with MPE. You can
> optionally use Reflection (if you have it) or QCTerm (links to the free
> archived version and instructions in the README) to get full terminal
> functionality and run up to 15 user sessions via telnet to the virtual ATC
> ports on the Series III.
>
> This version includes fully working APL\3000 and my associated APL CPU
> Instruction Set emulation, as well as being a new model of HP-3000, which
> one might call a Series III+ (or even a Series IV) which has its memory
> "hardware" support increased to 8MB (4096K words) which is the same maximum
> amount of memory that MPE IV supported on the Series 64 in those days.
>
> One extra file is included with this version which is a PDF of the 1976
> APL\3000 Reference Manual since that has been so hard to find.
>
> One tip for playing with APL: Turn your CAPS LOCK on first.
>
> It also contains several metric crap-tons of old freeware including a
> complete GAMES account with all of the historically relevant software like
> Advent, Mansion, Dungeon, Warp, Trek73, DROID, and even the DRAGONS game
> written by a college kid who then used it to get a job at TSR where he
> contributed to the writing in many of their D&D products and later went on
> to be the lead designer for a little game called Skyrim.
>
> This is a five-disc system (you can add up to three more if you need more
> space, though there's about a million free sectors right now) with the
> directory expanded to 6,000 sectors  and various system tables expanded so
> you should not encounter any issues with it. It has been perfectly stable,
> staying up for weeks and pretty much never crashing or having any issue
> whatsoever.
>
> Hopefully one or two of you will have some fun with it.
>
> Feedback is appreciated.
>
> Gavin
> This message is not from a UTC.EDU address. Caution should be used in
> clicking links and downloading attachments from unknown senders or
> unexpected email.
>
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