Now i fall in to the tangled web of non-interactive conversation and the fact that I am not the greatest writer on the planet.

I agree with the comment that as 3Ks move to standardized periferals, there is now the need for an UPS as part of the system. However, I am the helpless romantic and of course the HP3K will always  be viewed as the great machine (at least from this point of view) it has been. Not the 'as quickly as we can forget it' machine HP seems to have forgotten.

I know there is a trade off for using standardized periferals, but the trade off here seems to interfere with one of the 3K's main points.

We also have an NT on the network, but for what it's worth, this helpless romantic prefers the good ol' 3K that comes back from a powerfail as if it never happended.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Duane Percox [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Wednesday, June 04, 1997 4:35 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re: hp3k/nt/powerfail recovery

Dave Gale writes:

>I don't think the situation is the same for both machines. The real test
comes when the UPS and the CPU batteries fail. Yes you can build a better
mouse trap, but the 3k has the mouse trap built in so that 10 years from
now, when the CPU battery barely holds 5 minutes worth of juice, it will
still save your data and will not require you to bring back files from backups.
>
>NT requires a UPS for this kind of power fail recovery. If that UPS ever
looses one of the batteries (and it will) the real test begins.
>
>Just my point of view.
>

This might be true for older systems, but any newer hp3k system requires
a ups to avoid catastrophic disc failures (due in part to newer disk drive
"features").

Maybe I didn't stress my point enough. Its more the "you can make it so",
than that "its that way by default" that is important here. All 3k systems
are evolving to more standard based peripheral products which are requiring
these same add-on solutions.

duane percox