My sympathies go out to Canada then.
Tracy Johnson
MSI Schaevitz Sensors
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Larry Barnes
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
>
>
> Maybe these are the new Tell-tale signs of the next "Great
> Depression"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Nolan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 7:52 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
>
> I agree with Ray. The last company I worked for closed due to
> government
> action and inaction. The company was a politcal football for
> years. The
> only time the govement seems to get involved is when there is
> something
> in it for thier "business buddies". Here in Canada job
> creation has big
> govement involvement. In the last few year they have closed down the
> mining and steel industries and replaced them with call center jobs.
> They have done a great job they traided $25-30/ hours jobs for $9.75/
> hour.
>
> The question I have to ask is where does it stop. If a
> company is trying
> to pay the lowest possible wage to employees and keep the profits high
> by selling an expensive product who has the money to buy
> thier product.
> Eventually does not the system break down. If people do not have the
> money to buy the products don't the companies go out of
> business because
> there are no sales.
>
> Which comes first the chicken or the egg? The company or the job?
>
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Lalley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:23 PM
> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
>
>
> > --- "Shahan, Ray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > That's ok by me...what I'm against is that same
> government granting
> > > tax breaks/incentives to companies that hinders my ability to
> > > exercise my
> free
> > > choices, develop skills, hone my work ethic, and contract with an
> employer
> > > eager to hire someone like me. ".
> >
> > Wow, an intelligent response, that did not mention Bush,
> Kerry, Iraq
> > or
> any
> > name calling.
> >
> > Thanks Ray!
> >
> > -Craig
> >
> >
> >
> >
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