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Tracy Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
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Tracy Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:59:11 -0800
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shouldn't be a problem at all - just turn off HPTYPEAHEAD, which attempts to
solve a latency problem best handled client-side.  I've never had any
troubles at all using Reflection's client-side type-ahead, but host-side was
a constant pain in the neck, generally unsuitable for users unaware of the
problem much less the solution.

Tracy Pierce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Silagi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: nmmgr & reflections.....
>
>
>  I agree that neither workaround is ideal.  Several years ago
> we spent a fair
> amount of time with a network analyzer looking at the way
> Reflection and
> other emulators behaved with respect to hptypearound. I don't
> remember all
> the details, but I remember emailing someone at HP about
> this. I believe the
> response was to try setting the 6th byte in the venvcntl
> file. Given the
> workarounds and improved telnet support this one fell between
> the cracks.
> That said, I am curious about how big a problem this is for Reflection
> users.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Silagi
> WRQ, Inc.
>
>
> "Gilles Schipper" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
> news:bdSdnc0Sqd5myDbcRVn-iw@fidnet.com...
> > Nice to know about this "workaround".
> >
> > A better "workaround" would be to SETVAR HPTYPEAHEAD OFF,
> since this does
> > not go against HP's caution about using the 6th byte option
> of venvcntl.
> >
> > However, it would seem that the BEST workaround is to not require a
> > workaround.
> >
> > Why is it that only Reflection among all available terminal
> emulators has
> > this issue?
> >
> >
> > The best At 11:17 AM 2004-11-29, Joe Silagi wrote:
> >>  Another workaround is to set the 6th byte in
> venvcntl.pub.sys file.
> >>
> >>
> >>Short description about the 6th byte:
> >>VPLUS extends terminal status reads to ensure that input termination
> >>character is accounted for.
> >>DO NOT ACTIVATE this option unless experiencing VPLUS
> "terminal status
> >>request failed" errors due to network delays.
> >>
> >>
> >>Long description (watch the wrap):
> >>http://www.docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/fsearch/framedisplay?top=/mpe
ix/onlinedocs/32209-90024/32209-90024>
_top.html&con=/mpeix/onlinedocs/32209-90024/00/01/155-con.html
&toc=/mpeix/onlinedocs/32209-90024/00/01/155->
toc.html&searchterms=venvcntl&queryid=20041129-083946
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Joe Silagi
> >>WRQ, Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >>"john pitman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
> >>news:GtWdncvxftsnIjvcRVn-vA@fidnet.com...
> >> > Wirt,
> >> >
> >> > I did that - set a connection to defaults all panels, and NMMGR
> >> > works......I
> >> > still don't know whats different though, soI will have
> to work through
> >> > and
> >> > see if I can find it.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > jp
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 1:21 PM
> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Serial device FDEVICECONTROL question
> >> >
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> >> we live with it by going to console, and moving logical console
> >> >>  elsewhere....
> >> >>  It works fine under qcterm telnet.
> >> >>  What setting can I have wrong such that this is the
> only sign of a
> >> > problem?
> >> >
> >> > I haven't a clue as to the answer to your question, but my
> >> > recommendation
> >> > would be either to set Reflection back to its default
> settings (even if
> >> > it
> >> > requires removal of the program and reinstalling it) or
> asking your
> >> > helpful
> >> > Reflection support person the same question.
> >> >
> >> > Reflection out of the box works just fine with NMMGR,
> either under
> >> > NS/VT
> >> > or
> >> > telnet, so it must be some sort of local corruption.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > Wirt
> >> >
> >> >
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> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------
> > Gilles Schipper
> > GSA Inc.
> > HP System Administration Specialists
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> > Voice: 905.889.3000     Fax: 905.889.3001
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