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Don Harrington <[log in to unmask]>
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Don Harrington <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:39:37 -0800
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On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Eric J Schubert wrote:
 
> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 10:58:26 EST
> >Reply-To: CHAD GILLES <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sender: HP-3000 Systems Discussion <[log in to unmask]>
> >From: CHAD GILLES <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: V/plus application on the web...Is it possible?
> >
> >This question may sound like it is coming from a web rookie because...well...
> I
> >am.
> >
> >My manager has asked me to find out if it is possible for one of our
> >applications, running on a HP3000 and utilizing V/plus, can be accessed from
> the
> >web and  without any changes to our application...Wouldn't this be very
> >difficult to achieve if it is even possible, not to mention very slow.
> >
> >Anyway, that was my 'rookie' question. TIA for any answers
>
> Read & enjoy.  First cut paper I've been working on over a year (not yet
> complete,) please anyone provide feedback.
>
> Eric.
> ------
>
<snip>
 
Just went to a demo today on a product called Visual Wave by
ParcPlace-Digitalk that does this very thing.  It's based on SmallTalk
and runs on a host of platforms (if you'll pardon the pun), one of which
is HP-UX.  Don't know if it's POSIX compliant or not - they're supposed
to get back to me.
 
>
> hypertext Transfer Protocol demands socket closure after each transaction.
> This requirement can be managed effectively when 1) a unique user identifier
> string is generated  2) User identifier is stored both on the client and host
>  3) Client sends the User identifier with each transaction.
>
> NETSCAPE "COOKIES" AND MOSAIC "HIDDEN FIELDS"
>
> With the introduction of the NETSCAPE Web client "cookie", or a persistent
> client state mechanism, it is possible to create a unique session identifier
> and store this identifier both the client and server.  The client returns this
> User identifier "cookie" with each Web client transaction, so that a server on
> the host can reattach the Web client back to its rightful stateful host
> process (like a traditional session.)
>
> Mosaic clients implemented an earlier method called "hidden fields' to store
> data on forms without the user aware of its presence.  Mosaic forms are the
> only method that can store extraneous server information, while NETSCAPE
> cookies store server information about any HTML page.
>
 
That's precisely the method they use.
 
<snip>
 
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Eric J. Schubert                    Senior Data Base Analyst
> Office of Information Technologies  Univ of Notre Dame, IN USA
> (219) 631-7306                      http://www.nd.edu/~eschuber
>
 
Nice work, Eric!
 
Don  Harrington                         Boeing Commercial Airplane Group
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