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November 2008, Week 3

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<[log in to unmask]>, Peter M. 
Eggers <[log in to unmask]> writes
>Ah yes, the 7th anniversary of HP's abandonment of the HP3000!  I was
>celebrating(?) my 49th birthday 2 weeks after my last paid involvement in
>the HP3000, an inhouse manufacturing system at Boeing.  It seems to be an
>auspicious time to answer Mark's question:
...
>MPE is also anemic in its networking, logical volume management, peripheral
>support, cpu support, etc.  Create an intrinsic interface for what you need,
>and then within the intrinsic, out of reach of UM (user mode), you call on
>Linux to make the "magic" happen.  The intrinsics provide an MPE "world
>view" of storage and devices which may be hideously more complex at the
>Linux level, or even non-existent.
>
>Pete

I'm still in paid involvement with the HP3000, working on an Oracle 
conversion. The current working ratio is that what it takes the HP3000 
two minutes to generate, it takes Oracle an hour to digest.

Clever people on Oracle pay rates are wrestling with this even as we 
speak :-)

But the surprising limitation that I hit with MPE/iX, which Linux and 
even Windows brush off effortlessly, was trying to run a system across 
several timezones, and have everyone see everything in their local time.

Even using Hourglass or something similar - which shouldn't be needed 
for this anyway - I was never able to figure out how it could be done.

I could get close, within an application that I could change the code 
of, but I couldn't get all the way there.

I eventually concluded it was impossible to do with MPE :-(

-- 
Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  William Morris

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