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SMBs will start buying IBM.    8-)

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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Lee
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Disappointed again.

Is the "cloud" going to reduce hardware sales significantly?  Will SMBs stop buying ProLiants and Unix servers 5 years from now and do their computing via the web?  Is this a trend?

John Lee



At 02:05 PM 08/22/2011, Ron Seybold wrote:
>John Lee wrote:
>
> > An analyst interviewed on CNBC today thinks that HP's Board is
> trending out of the hardware business and going to concentrate on 
> software and become a software company.
>
>If that's correct, a lot of HP's enterprise customers should be trying 
>to calculate the rate of trending away from NonStop, VMS and HP-UX 
>servers. All of which operate with Itanium chips. No growth there 
>anymore. And that's the wrong kind of software, if last week is a good 
>indicator.
>
>It's hard to see HP giving up on the ProLiants, so profitable, and 
>really leading in their space for blade servers. So at the very least, 
>that's much slower trending. HP is still signing up new ProLiant 
>customers.
>
>Does storage count as hardware? HP is competitive and profitable in 
>that sector, too. Not sure about the margins there -- have to check 
>with my pal Scott Hirsh, or as he's known on Twitter, @MisterStorage. 
>(Once led the SIGSYSMAN group and a 3000 shop in San
>Francisco.)
>
>Then there's the printer business, which is certainly hardware for 
>about 30 days in any customer's life. Then they become an HP customer 
>for ink and paper. Big margins there, one $17 cartridge at a time. HP 
>talked up its "increasing page count" for its honking-big Indigo 
>commercial printers. But that's "page count," not "hardware units sold 
>count." Again, ink and paper, but much larger quantities than $17 a 
>throw.
>
>The surprise to me during the pullout of last week was how short the 
>leash looks for WebOS. CEO Leo is a software guy, but his idea of 
>software isn't an OS, it's Autonomy -- the UK firm that managed to sell 
>$850 million of SaaS last year. Or, fewer sales than those stalled 
>NonStop, VMS and HP-UX businesses post in half as many months. I don't 
>know what magic HP will manage to spin an $850-mil company into a 
>business big enough to replace its profitable hardware lines.
>
>Is there a chart for trending on magic?
>
>Ron
>
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