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That's like paying Microsoft to transfer your Windows 98 O/S to another IBM
clone 486SX ... please what a waste of money!  

Ryan C. Melander
Ideal Computer Services, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of michael
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] <Plug> HP 3000 servers for sale

So, bottom-line; To be legal you must "Still" transfer the lic, pay $500,
and your good to go. I just paid $399 for Win7 Pro 64 bit, so $500 for MPE
seems fair!

Additionally, if the box doesn't have a lic, then it can't be legally used,
right?

It would be great if I could run MPE in Virtual Box, or maybe VM.

Mike.



On 03/15/2011 01:57 PM, Johnson, Tracy wrote:
> Ah, that's what I meant then.
>
> Tracy Johnson
> Office 1-757-766-4318
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jack Connor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:54 PM
>> To: Johnson, Tracy; [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: RE: [HP3000-L]<Plug>  HP 3000 servers for sale
>>
>> Not true, Tracy, SLT is alive and well and does all license transfers 
>> including MPE.
>>
>> The difference between 12/31/2010 and today is that you can no longer 
>> get a box that was without a license relicensed.
>>
>> And to play devil's advocate a bit, it's the intellectual property 
>> that the license covers and the right to use same.
>>
>> I'd bet that if you loaded up a bunch of pcs with Windows 95, 
>> MicroSoft would still want their buckos.
>>
>> jack
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:24 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L]<Plug>  HP 3000 servers for sale
>>
>> And you had to pay your $500 bucks before December 31 of last year.
>> They're not taking applications anymore methinks.
>>
>> Tracy Johnson
>> Office 1-757-766-4318
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of michael
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:12 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L]<Plug>  HP 3000 servers for sale
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>> I recently purchased a 928, with the original lic, and transfer 
>>> signed, but I recall HP wanted about $500 to actually execute the 
>>> transfer, and I paid less than that for the box. So, I Understand 
>>> your point exactly, but where talking about HP. Today it seems 
>>> completely ridiculous/impossible to transfer a MPE lic. I just had 
>>> to ask the question, because it also seems that HP should NOT have 
>>> any interest in the MPE source, but they apparently do.
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2011 12:52 PM, Mark Ranft wrote:
>>>> Michael asks,
>>>>
>>>>> "Just curious, are their issues related to the MPE Right
>>> to use, and/or lic and so on....
>>>>> AKA: If I knew someone that wanted to run one of these in
>>> a production environment, what would be required to run it legally?"
>>>> HP 3000 servers and the associated MPE/iX operating system
>>> software license are joined at the hip.  The operating system
>>> license stays with the system.  (This assumes the system is
>>> an original HP3000 system and not a converted HP-UX system.)
>>> Any add-on software products from HP or third party vendors
>>> that are associated with the system do not transfer.
>>>> With that said, getting HP to legally transfer licenses
>>> from HP purchased and supported systems from the original
>>> purchaser to a buyer is like pulling teeth without Novocain.
>>>> And in today's world, what good does having an official
>>> legal HP license for a no longer sold, no longer supported,
>>> defunct product do?
>>>>
>>>> Mark Ranft
>>>> Pro 3K
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>>
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