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Eric Sand <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:51:51 -0700
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     I believe what JP is referring to is a Ducati 999 Testastetta... 
0 to 60 in 2.83 secs and the handling is second to none. I drive one 
(mostly at nearby Laguna Seca) and the feeling is just like  
MPE....exhilarating!

          Eric Sand



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> From: john pitman <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: June 28, 2007 2:52:28 PM PDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] KEN SLETTEN will be UNsubscribing end of  
> this week.
> Reply-To: john pitman <[log in to unmask]>
>
> oooooohhhhhhhh    I think MPE handles considerably better in its  
> world than
> a Harley does in its world......Hopefully you meant its like a racing
> Ducati.....
>
> jp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On  
> Behalf
> Of serasoft
> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 2:15 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] KEN SLETTEN will be UNsubscribing end of  
> this week.
>
> Me too.  I am still programming on the HP3000 and will do so until  
> they
> unplug it and the security guards haul me off and throw me in the  
> street.
>
> I am also involved in PHP, MYSql, HTML, Dreamweaver, Photoshop etc,  
> etc, and
> while the web technology is cool, nothing compares to the HP3000!   
> Nothing!
> It is truly the Harley-Davidson of the computer hardware world.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On  
> Behalf
> Of Denys Beauchemin
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] KEN SLETTEN will be UNsubscribing end of  
> this week.
>
> Thanks for everything, Ken.
>
> I'm going to see if I can stay here until they turn off the lights.
>
> Denys...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On  
> Behalf
> Of Sletten Kenneth W KPWA
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] KEN SLETTEN will be UNsubscribing end of this  
> week.
>
> Hello once again HP3000-L:
>
> I was a frequent contributor 4 quite a few years, but it's been  
> some time
> since I posted anything to 3000-L.
> But now it's time to say sayonara:
>
> After over 20 years of running our entire shop production on HP 3000
> platforms, we completed internal migration of our IMAGE-Transact
> client-server system from our trusty 959KS-400 to Microsoft Windows  
> Server
> and SQL-Server back in September 2005.  There were a number of ''speed
> bumps'' here and there on the road to SQL-Server, but overall I  
> believe it's
> fair to say that we were fully successful (I can't claim much of  
> the credit;
> that goes to the C++, C#, .NET, and SQL experts on our team).
>
> Our production system is now running SQL-2005, C#, and .NET 2.0 on  
> DELL
> servers; with a smattering of Java Script, HTML, and etcetera on  
> the client
> side.  While there continue to be the occasional and usual  
> ''surprises''
> from Microsoft (especially as I recall in moving from one version  
> of .NET to
> another), up-time and performance have been good; certainly ''good  
> enough''
> (no empirical data; just our general consensus). . . .
> Oh, yeah:
> When we turned off our 959, HP totally dropped out of the picture  
> at our
> site (other than HP LJ printers).
>
> SIDEBAR:  Just for grins the other day, after our 959KS-400 was  
> powered down
> in December 2005 and not restarted for 18 months, I fired it up a  
> few days
> ago.  Darned if it AND all those old discs didn't all come up O.K.   
> Too bad
> it will never be used again.
>
> OBSERVATION:  Was in COSTCO last weekend:  Saw they had the 750 GB  
> Seagate
> FreeAgent Pro 7200.10 external drive with USB 2.0, dual Firewire,  
> eSATA-3.0,
> on-board software, and a 5-year warantee for $249 with coupon.
> Considering HD Movies take a lot of GB;  and that even music CDs  
> can chew up
> 400+ MB if U load them ''lossless'' into Windows Media Player on  
> Vista;
> what the heck:  I splurged.
> Afterwards it crossed my mind that on that tiny little drive that U  
> can hold
> in your hand U can store over 1850 times as much as we could put on  
> the old
> 404 MB HP 7933 ''washing machines''.  Considering the FreeAgent Pro  
> unit
> (excluding base) fits in a volume approximately one-half of 1  
> percent the
> size of the old 7933, that means data density from the point of  
> view of the
> overall external package has increased by something on the order of  
> 370,000
> times. . . . .  Even though that's over a period of 20+ years, I  
> still find
> that fact reasonably amazing. . . . .  Not to mention the drop in
> cost-per-GB:  At $0.33 per GB 4 FreeAgent Pro, ya gotta wonder how  
> much
> cheaper consumer stand-alone storage can get in the next 10 years  
> or so.
>
> FINALLY:  After 30 years as a Federalli systems and software  
> engineer, I'm
> retiring this Friday 29 June; followed by an escape to Okanogan  
> County (the
> best of the Old West in WA (but with multiple high-speed ISPs) ).  
> Keeping my
> TurboIMAGE and a few other MPE manuals for old time's sake, but the  
> cold
> objective reality is that chances I will ever seriously work on an  
> HP 3000
> for the rest of my life are I expect pretty slim.
>
> THEREFORE:
> Even after retirement my next 10 years appear to be fairly fully  
> booked
> already.  Sooo. . . :
> Needing to do triage somewhere, at the end of this week I will be
> UNSUBSCRIBING from 3000-L.
> If anyone on the list should 4 whatever reason want to contact me  
> in the
> future, much of the time I should be findable at or thru:
>
> ken-AT-kensletten-DOT-com
> 509dash429dash8280
> Box 902
> Winthrop, WA 98862-0902
>
> OFF-TOPIC FOOTNOTE: Over the last few years I recall that several  
> people
> expressed potential interest in joining a Colorado River float trip  
> thru the
> Grand Canyon.... Unfortunately I can't find a good list of who that  
> was
> anymore. So FWIW:
> My private permit does not come up until September 2009, but  
> (probably) in
> September 2008 I am planning to try and put together what amounts to a
> private float trip with one of the commerical outfitters that run  
> the Grand
> Canyon. . . Figure a test run to see if I'm still up to rowing it  
> myself
> might not be a bad idea. No guarantees on schedule or available  
> seats yet,
> but I will be trying to start to put a trip together in the next  
> few months.
>
> Cheers,
> Ken Sletten
> Former SIGRAPID Chair,
> Former SIGIMAGE Chair,
> Former HP e3000 user.
>
>

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