First a question back - What's "QUICK" ?
I've blind copied several vendors who might want to comment further
(they may know of migration options for Quick which would help you
choose), but the approach I took was to take a stock-check (in 2001) of
our system - and it looks like you've done the same. I also took a
deeper look at our programs, attended several conferences in the US, and
realised that we would need an emulation approach - as our applications
were very tightly bound to the MPE operating system (direct calls to MPE
intrinsics, special tricks with the MPE spooler).
The next step was to run a series of proof of concept projects with the
vendors. For this I distilled into very simple "hello World" type
programs that tested the vendors' claims to support all aspects of our
system. I ideally would have liked to test each and every possible
combination, but management wouldn't sanction that in the budget, so I
had to choose between MicroFocus Cobol and Acucobol. For several
reasons, we chose Acucobol (but - like you - I can't help worry that
such a major decision might come back to haunt me !).
Running the tests with the vendors more or less in parallel, I came to
my final conclusion and chose mpux/edwin and Acucobol. However, please
don't forget is that this was the combination that best suited our
company. I also looked at Screenjet which was also a very good
replacement for View.
If you look at the history of the HP3000 migration market, you might
justifiably argue that AMXW and Microfocus cobol set the standard years
ahead of the other vendors. (Indeed, one of the vendors who is BC'ed
into this email has mused many times that in the 90's he was regarded as
black sheep by HP by allowing customers to migrate away from the
HP3000).
Michael - with a .COM email address I can't tell where you're based. If
you're in the UK, I happily put you in touch with my contacts so you can
start the ball rolling.
To close, I'll comment that getting budgets from management will be
your bigger battle - I've been trying all year to form a migration team
to formally start the migration, and - at last - my managers have
realised we need some external project mangager to help to distill all
the information I have prepared over the last few years into a short
report explaining (to the board) why we need a team of 6 or more
contractors for 12 months : even though I've been telling everyone
since 2001 that we would need such a dedicated team.
Best of luck.
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Michael Caplin
Sent: 30 November 2006 16:56
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Subject: [HP3000-L] MPUX / AMXW
I've been putting this off for as long as I can but I can't hide from it
anymore. A migration is going to happen, I need to figure out which
path to take. The envronment is COBOL, Quick & Dictionary but none of
the other Powerhouse components, View, Image, KSAM (old & new),
MSGFiles, lots of intrinsic calls from COBOL, the streams have some
fancy stuff but not too much. The Quick screens are very ugly with a
lot of COBOL calls. We also have COBOL74 programs that just won't run
right in 85. The decision has been made to go to HPUX, everything else
is up in the air.
I've read the messages posted and I've been to the Speedware, Ordina,
etc websites.
I have a feeling that some day after going down the right fork in the
road, I'm going to say, 'I should have gone to the left'.
Can anyone point me to a place where I can read about some recent
hands-on developers who have gone thru this - besides what's posted on
this list.
It was helpful but a lot of it is old so I wonder if it's still
relevant.
Problems that someone had with a product in 2003 could be solved by now.
I don't trust what I hear from the vendors. I'm lookijg for real-life
stories.
Mike
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