Excellent Ken, thanks for all the facts and figures to back it up, I always
appreciate that.  What's also interesting is to see it broken down by
state.  I don't have anything to support this as I read it some years back
and I don't know if it is still the same.  But the state of Utah spent the
least of any state per student on education, it was like $1,500 a year
compared to like $3,500 in california at the time I think, but they had
some of the highest scores for graduates and literacy.  The argument was
made that it was primarily because it was a Mormon dominated state, and
their family values and ethics is what contributed to it, following in line
with some of my comments earlier (oh yea, I'm Mormon in case you weren't
already aware).

At 02:32 PM 9/27/2004, Ken Hirsch wrote:
>Michael Baier wrote:
>
>>So, I guess we move. Either a bigger city or back to Europe.
>>At least the kids there get a free education and not based on the amount of
>>money the parents can spend. Even the colleges and universities are
>>affordable, unlike in the great USofA.
>>
>A greater percentage of people go to college in the U.S. than in almost
>any European country:
>http://nces.ed.gov/pubs/esn/n21cc.asp
>http://www.oecd.org/document/11/0,2340,en_2825_495609_33712011_1_1_1_1,00.html
>
>>Of course, a president that needs $150 billions for Iraq and has no money
>>for education thats just what this great country needs.
>>
>I'm not sure what you mean by "no money for education."  The federal
>education budget has increased a lot under Bush--although, in my
>opinion, not in a very useful way.  Of course most money for education
>in the U.S comes from state and local governments.  Total public
>spending in the U.S. on education is comparable to other OECD countries.
>
>(From
>http://www.oecd.org/document/11/0,2340,en_2825_495609_33712011_1_1_1_1,00.html)
>Table B2.1a
>Expenditure on educational institutions as a percentage of GDP for all
>levels of education (2001)
>
>Public spending
>6.8%    Denmark
>6.3     Sweden
>6.1     Norway
>6.1     Iceland
>6.0     Belgium
>5.8     Portugal
>5.7     Finland
>5.6     Poland
>5.6     France
>5.6     Austria
>5.5     New Zealand
>5.4     Switzerland
>5.1     United States   <=======
>5.1     Mexico
>4.9     Italy
>4.9     Canada
>4.8     Korea
>4.7     United Kingdom
>4.6     Hungary
>4.5     Netherlands
>4.5     Australia
>4.3     Spain
>4.3     Germany
>4.2     Czech Republic
>4.1     Ireland
>4.0     Slovak Republic
>3.8     Greece
>3.6     Luxembourg
>3.5     Turkey
>3.5     Japan
>
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