Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Scrap the valium budget.  Oracle is Image on valium to start with :-)
>But honestly, you have to have been hiding in a closet to not notice the
>recent trend toward Oracle.  After seeing it, I've never been so horrified in
>my entire life.  Richard understates the atrocities of Oracle.

There has always been a "recent trend" towards mediocrity, at least since
recorded-history times :-(


>> >... Image/SQL today, provides virtually everything
>> >one needs from a database that is rich, robust, scalable, and has a proven
>> >track record that surpasses anything out there today, including Oracle,
>>DB2,
>> >MS SQL Server, Sybase, Informix, etc.
>
>And it does so with a minimum of resource requirements.

That's the whole tenet of economic theory: To minimize the use of scarce
resources.  People tend to act as if resources were unlimited.


 >Slick GUI?  Maybe for SQL server, but not Oracle.  The Oracle GUI is
>very bloated.  Calling it a fat client would be only too kind.

That's an interesting expression, "fat client".


>> These comments reminded me that, many moons ago (and there IS a lot of
>> meaning in this expression, as you will see in a couple of moons), I wrote
>> a little "revolutionary call to action" paper ("IMAGE/SQL: Your action
>> ABC").
>
>Yeah, ABC - make an Ass or yourself, Bitch about it endlessly, and Cry
>over the decision in the long run.

This is a great new interpretation for ABC :-)

Are you referring (with the subtle "Ass" qualifier) to management for
having made the decision or to the technical guys who have to clean up (and
live with) the mess?


>> I look forward to your childlike innocent little questions.
>
>Perhaps a brand new Oracle design of software could work.  In our case
>we have 20 year old technology being reinvented yet again, and choosing
>Oracle as the building blocks only serves to make matters worse.

Who is trying, nowadays?  Microsoft, for sure (they hired Jim Gray and
other leading-edge database guys).  But has anything good come out, at all,
anywhere?  Should we give up on HP regarding what they can/should/could do
with IMAGE?  Is everything "lost" in your site, or is there a chance for
you to recover?

Watching the Clinton saga is very educational (regardless of anyone's
opinion).  Things are not over until they are over and people fight to the
end with all their might.  I can't quite see that kind of "fighting spirit"
in HP (but I can certainly see it in Microsoft and Oracle).  So, who wins?
The "best fighting spirit" or "the best"?  Your mention of "the trend
toward Oracle" says it all, because most people sheepishly follow "trends".
The human impulse to be perceived as "cool" is very strong.
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