I guess that I'm either to innocent or just not inquisitive. I stumbled across a hacker's web page which made me wonder what might be out there regarding HP3000s. If you are interested in the tip of the iceberg, take a look at the following URLs: http://office.ee.ttit.edu.tw/~deer/hack/hack.html http://www.nb.net/~frame1/hack-faq-1.html http://arirang.miso.co.kr/~xter/hack/hack-basics/hackfaq.html It appears that most of the above sites have shared their info. The really scary site is the following: http://fls.cll.wayne.edu/fls/trials/mpetutor/welcome.htm ;>) Gary Jackson Nevada CSOS (916) 478-6407 - voice (916) 478-6410 - fax