Bill Shanks wrote:
>>Legalized sex with animals will be next (it may take another 20 years
>>but wait for it). Does this sound repugnant, it should. Interesting that
>>these two verses are right next to each other...
>>
>>
>>Leviticus 18
>>22   Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
>>23   Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith:
>>neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is
>>confusion.
>>
>>Romans 1
>>26   For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
>>their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
>>27   And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
>>burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which
>>is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error
>>which was meet.
>>
>>
>>And for those that may or may not believe God.
>>
>>Psalm 14
>>1   The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
>>
>>Psalm 53
>>1   The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
>>
>>
>>James 2
>>19   Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils
>>also believe, and tremble.
>
>
> Thanks for the Biblical references.  Live your life according to the values
> you choose, and I will live my life according to the values I choose, which
> do not include the Bible, for many reasons that I will not share here.
> Your references may make me a fool, but only if I choose to agree with
> them.  Notice the word "choose"?  It's really important.  My biggest beef
> with the extreme right is their propensity to try and make choices for me,
> or to take choices away.  Something like oppression.

Your free will is still in-tact. I have not removed any of your choices.
I simply pointed out God's view on the subject. Obeying God is worthless
without a free will (we would then be simply robots). There are
consequences for our choices however. Rewards and punishments, some
happen now, some later. Some people get away with stuff for a long, long
time while others suffer immediately. Some are rewarded now, some much
later. It isn't 'fair' but that is the way it is.

If you choose to not believe in gravity and respect it, you will
eventually have unpleasant consequences.

If you choose to not believe in electricity and touch a live outlet, you
will have unpleasant consequences.

Your choice to ignore the overwhelming evidence for God does not change
reality.


> I'll take you up on the 20 years thing.  It's sad that many opposed to gay
> marriage try to to associate gays and lesbians with pedophilia and
> bestiality and worse.  This is hogwash, pure and simple.  We're talking
> consenting adults here.

I didn't associate, I said it was the next step down the path of moral
decay. Some will stop before going further but where we are now used to
be unthinkable. Rampant divorce used to be unthinkable before that. It
is a simple progression (I should say, regression). I've met people that
  have been caught up in both sodomy and beastiality (some for many
years). I understand the why without condoning the behavior. Someone
wanting to get out of the trap is far different from someone claiming
that there is nothing wrong with the behavior. Pedophilia sounds
unthinkable to you now but if we leave it unchecked, it will become
acceptable to some too. You simply 'draw the line' later in the
progression. I am not perfect and sin too. Conviction and condemnation
are two distinct things. The conviction should lead to repentance
(partly because we know that condemnation eventually awaits if we
don't). The problem is those that have so seared their conscience as to
never be convicted of any wrongdoing. You can't get healthy until you
admit that you are sick.

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