when i first asked about how folks were ma
ok....true confession time.
when i first asked about how folks were making their slt's....i was pretty sure of the answers. we've discussed this before and we came to the conclusion that it's a 'good thing' for an slt to have things (like telesup) added. i was just checking, because....
i've run into a problem with a program called 'sltcopy' (re-read mike hornsby's post!) and the solution i was offered was to *not* add anything extra to my slt's. just make a basic slt and rely on additional backups to get <whatever> files you need.
i mulled on that reply for a bit...(sneakily) checked with y'all....and responded that the 'extras' being added were there for a good reason...
so...thank you for you input. i just wanted to confirm i was too far out in left field :-) - d
Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
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----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:13:22 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] slt question (lognish)
You use CHECKSLT.MPEXL.TELESUP with a version of the program that matches
the MPE version of the SLT you are testing.
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of J Dolliver
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] slt question (lognish)
How do you test SLT's ? Is it not just a validate process or do you
actually test the tapes on test HP3000 hardware?
-------------- Original message from Mike Hornsby <[log in to unmask]>:
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> donna hofmeister wrote:
> > doing a bit of research regarding slt's.
> >
> > when you make an slt, are you adding anything to the tape? that is,
> > are you specifying extra files be stored? - d
> IMHO, The SLT should have everything required to accomplish the first
> four steps of a system INSTALL:. 1. Boot from Alternate Path to ISL,
> 2. Install MPE/iX to the Primary Path, 3. Restore @[log in to unmask],@[log in to unmask],
> & all diagnostics. 4. Reboot to ISL and START.
>
> Notes from experience over time:
> A. It is also very important to also have the HP Factory media handy.
> Some bugs in the past
> created SLT tapes that would validate but were non functional. And, it
> is possible that disk errors or more frequently patch errors can
> result in a series of SLTs that have latent problems.
> These HP Factory media should be stored in a safe place with a note on
> the console with a clue to where this safe place is.
>
> B. It is very common for SLTs to play hide and seek. It is not at all
> amusing to play this game at 2:30am. It is a good idea to have
> multiple copies, one stored in a safe place and another physically
> attach to the system in a folder/envelope that also contains a SYSGEN
> or better yet a SYSINFO configuration listing. If the stable storage
> is lost due to a replacement of a processor or main board,
> establishing the correct alternate and primary boot paths from the
> configuration listing is preferable to the trial and error method.
>
> C. If you have disk arrays it is a good idea to have a separate
> dedicated console ( if applicable) and have the MPE/iX based
> diagnostics (if applicable) included in the SLT tape. These arrays
> work very well, until they don't. The host based diagnostics usually
> have a more comprehensive command set, and are far easier to use than
> the array front panel or direct connected console.
>
> D. If you have a CD attached to the system it is a good idea to
> acquire the the HP diagnostics CD and keep it physically attached to
> the system. The CD can load the Offline Diagnostic Environment (ODE)
> at least 100 times faster than the SLT tape.
> http://software.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductsList.do?category=
> ER
>
> Also, as a PLUG for Beechglen's support services, build into our
> support coverage is testing of our customer's SLTs and a full disaster
> recover test. It is one thing to think that you have all the necessary
> components. It is much better to have an independent party perform a
> complete end to end test.
>
> Cordially,
> Mike Hornsby
> CTO Beechglen Development Inc.
> Support for MPE since 1988
> 513-922-0509 x 31
>
>
>
>
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