This was CRUG out of Chicago.

Ron Horner
Operations Manager
Administrative Management Group
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        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Art Bahrs [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Thursday, May 13, 1999 4:30 PM
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: The closing of a RUG

        Hi Nick and Others :)
            Remember also.... Attendance is the *MOST* important part of any
        conference... We had Nick Earle speak at ORERUG and only had 15
people show
        up... 21 if you count the Board of Director's :)

             What RUG was this?

        Art "Still hoping to hear from a few ORERUG members wanting a
conference" Bahrs


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        >From: Nick Demos <[log in to unmask]>
        >To: [log in to unmask]
        >Subject: Re: The closing of a RUG
        >Date: Thu, 13 May, 1999, 14:16
        >

        > RON HORNER wrote:
        >>
        >> <venting>
        >> During our committee meeting this morning, it was decided to
close the RUG.
        >> Now I understand that I'm new in getting involved, and that the
other
        >> committee members have been in it for awhile.  But it just feels
so wrong to
        >> give in and pack it up.  There has got to be a way to get the
local HP
        >> community excited, again.
        >>
        >> The straw that broke the camels back was the not so good
attendance at our
        >> vendor day. We got the stats back and they did not look good at
all, thus
        >> the closing.
        >>
        >> Now here I sit, at my desk, feeling like I want to rip someone's
head off.
        >> It's like now what to do.  I've worked on the platform for 13
years and love
        >> it.  All of those who say that box is dead, "their full of it".
Start
        >> working with my RUG in trying to get the word out; and, now the
loss, like
        >> "what do you mean it's over.  I just got started working with you
on this."
        >> Where did we go wrong?  Were we not aggressive enough?  Did we
not know what
        >> our users want?
        >>
        > Ron, you did not say WHAT RUG or where.  What is/was the
        > financial condition of
        >  the RUG?
        >
        > Because there is so much info. elsewhere, e. g. this list, etc.,
        > many do not see
        > the need for a RUG.  For a meeting to be successful you HAVE to
        > have the
        > right topic and a knowledgeable good speaker.  I am a RUG
        > chairman and
        > maybe I can help, but I must say our RUG (BWRUG) has problems,
        > too.
        > It is very hard to get volunteers and attendance at meetings is
        > NOWHERE
        > near what it used to be.
        >
        > Nick Demos [log in to unmask]
        >
        > BWRUG Chair