Jim, that's the museum I meant. Somehow I magically moved it to Wichita. I
knew the name of the town ended with an "a". :-)
Thanks for the great info.
Question for you, the SAC museum supposedly has an example of all the planes
flown by SAC and the bombers of AAF before that. Is there a B-45 there?
Denys
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I live near Omaha Nebraska which for years was the home of SAC. They
had a small Air Force museum just off base for years with most of the
aircraft outside and suffering badly. A few years ago a new museum was
built about half way between Omaha and Lincoln Nebraska. The new
facility houses most of its aircraft inside now. At the entrance there
is an SR-71 up on a pedestal poised so you can get a really good view of
the entire aircraft from most every angle. They too have a B-36 with a
Goblin right beside it. They also have several other interesting
aircraft such as a B-58 and B-47. They have a few nicely redone WWII
aircraft B-17, B-25, A-26, and B-29 come to mind. The last time I
visited they were cleaning up a B-1, the B model I think. And you could
watch them work on it. While certainly not up to the Air Force Museum
at Dayton Ohio It is well worth taking a few hours to enjoy it if you
are in the area.
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Indeed I have heard the story. I also heard the follow-on to that store
with a fifth aircraft, the fabled Aurora being top dog.
I am sure that you have visited the Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH.
There
you will find an example of all the airplanes flown by the Air Force.
It
has the only extant XB-70 Valkyrie on display. There is also a B-36
with a
Goblin right beside it. This museum is a must-see.
I also want to visit the SAC museum in Wichita, KS one of these days.
Denys
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Denys - I am sure you heard the Internet story of the transcript between
4
aircraft
at various altitudes and Los Angeles ATC - the top dog, of course,
being an
SR-71 on the way into Edwards. They all wanted to know their ground
speeds.
I have been the the National Air and Space Museum in DC - certainly one
of
the
world's top aviation museums, there is one in the Bay Area that while
small
- is interesting - profilling aviation from the Bay Area.
The Seattle Museum to me ranks in interest right with the Smithsonian -
certainly
its collection is smaller (whose isn't) but the way they arrange the
displays
- you can walk around many of them - and their new wing of WW1 and 2
aircraft
has to be among the best in the world.
All WW2 fighters are virtually extinct - as an example of the 8,000 P51s
made
about 100 are left flying. Of the 40,000 Me109s made there is only 1 or
2
left
flying with the original DB 601 engine. You can tell because the engine
was
unique in that plane - designed to hang inverted for better CG - the
exaust
stacks on the cowling on a DB powered 109 are always towards the bottom
-
virtually
every other 109 you see in the movies (maybe less than 10 flying?) have
been
converted to Merlin engines - the exhaust is in a more conventional
location
towards the top.
The Seattle museum has the rarest of these planes - like an F4G - a
varient
of the Corsair made by Goodyear with a bigger P & W engine - only 5 were
made
in total - and a liquid cooled Jumo-powered FW190 - if you like aviation
the
Seattle museum is a must see - I didn't have time to go outside to see
the
Concorde
and the 747 prototype - that will have to wait for the next visit.
BTW my host in Seattle, who is an engineer for Boeing, told me a funny
story
abnout the Concorde - the plane - like the SR-71, expands in supersonic
flight
and one of the pilots put his hat between the floor and a bulkhead -
well,
the
plane lands, the metal cools and retracts and the hat is permently stuck
in
there for all to see in perpetuity.
Bill
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