Pardon me, but which 30-year old tech ? The current (well, now, immediately
former) line of servers was introduced in Spring 2002, i.e. was 18 months at
the time it was retired. Most storage products and other peripherals were
less thn 2 years old. The oldest available peripheral is the DTC72, at
(Ithink) about 7 years. The last OS available for sale was MPE/iX 7.5, about
15 months old.

So which 3-decade old technology are we talking about, exactly ?

It's not a 3-decade old technology, it's a 3-decade old compatibility.

Christian

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la
> part de Gates, Scott
> Envoyé : vendredi 31 octobre 2003 21:13
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] HP3000 Wakes -- Computerworld
>
>
> I will not be attending one of the WWWakes due to conflicts
> with family
> time, but I will respond to your second question, Mr. Thibodeau.
>
> HP-3000 is ALMOST a Religion.  One article in ComputerWorld
> by Patricia
> Keefe decried that the 3K was 30 year old technology in a
> world where 3 year
> old tech was considered OLD.  Well, to that I say, Technology
> younger than 3
> years old keeps waking it's caretakers after midnight for
> occasional diaper
> changes.  My HP-3000 seldom makes me worry or wait up for it.
>  It's Mature
> in the GOOD sense.
>
> I've been working with 3k's for most of my career.  I get the
> joke about 200
> pounds of armor on a 90 pound knight. I've learned to calculate hash
> functions for TurboImage keys in college and played WARP and
> EMPIRE for the
> 3000. I can load and unload a database with Suprtool (yes,
> that's spelled
> correctly) I'm going to miss it.
>
> I work in a 3 man shop that supports a 1200 person company.
> Because of our
> business model, we would have to move to AS/400, expand to
> our staff, build
> a new building separate from the users and lose the personal touch of
> actually talking to our users.
> Do you know anyone who has spent 3 nights up re-building indices on a
> database?  I haven't, TurboImage transaction logging repairs
> the database
> before there is an error. 30 year old technology, but the
> Ford Mustang is 37
> year old technology, no one would question its appeal.  Air
> Force and Navy
> pilots typically fly planes that are 40 year old technology.
> We never are
> concerned when we upgrade the OS that our programs won't
> compile.  Usually,
> they don't NEED compiled.  They just run.
>
> The newer, flashier technologies are fun, but, I kinda like
> my sleep.  My
> HP-3000 doesn't keep me or anyone else in my shop awake all
> night (Unless
> somebody messes up their own programs.)
>
> Why are we emotional?  In addition to missing a reliable work
> horse of a
> system, many of us realize that our careers are also being
> switched off when
> we power down the 3000 for the last time.  The grunt work of
> programming has
> been offshored to places where programmers make less than
> grocery store
> clerks make here.  Many may go on to management positions.
> Others will find
> their nose doesn't fit where management's noses must go.
> Companies do not
> train as they used to, and as new technology replaces old
> they think it more
> cost effective to pasture the personnel.  Furthermore, we
> have a tendency to
> answer, "Well, the old stuff worked." when problems arise with the new
> systems.
>
> Presently, my company is spending time doing functional analysis and
> documentation of the legacy system.  The new system will not
> have half of
> the current system's functionality.  The documentation will
> at least show
> what we've lost.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news.verizon.net [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] HP3000 Wakes -- Computerworld
>
>
>  Hi -- Writing a story now about HP3000 wakes. If you are
> planning to attend
> one, and can explain why the Hp3000 is getting such an
> emotional response
> from its users -- please contact me.
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick Thibodeau
> Senior Editor
> Computerworld
> Washington DC
> [log in to unmask]
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