At 11:46 09/10/1998 -0700, Donna Garverick wrote:
>Subject:      Re: TPC benchmarks, anyone?
     { big snip here - benchmarks are the topic }
>to throw in my $.02 (and make y'all suffer to listening to my opinion
again :-)
>if the product line is going to continue to ride this renissance wave and
>actually turn it into genuine sale momentum -- then yes, you (hp) have to
>be prepared to defend the 3000 as *an equal player* in a sea of other
>servers!  we(3000)'ve made such wonderful strides and we still have a long
>ways to go but we are competitive when being compared to the as/400's,
>aix's and hp-ux's of the world.  if benchmarks are going to turn somebody's
>head, then by all means take the time, spend the money and prove to the
>rest of the world what we've known for a long time.

>it would be interesting to see (my heavens, am i actually suggesting doing
>a survey? :-) how many of us listers are working in a mixed-os environment.
>i know i am -- so that's one.  any other voters?         - d

My shop has a few non HP3K's I'd like to toss :)  Every night we send the
day's work from an HP to Sybase.  And the DNS / web servers / NT thingies /
Novell stuff kinda clutters up the room too.

BTW - if I'm to replace that Sybase widget, I need Oracle or Sybase on the
3K.  Current versions.  I can't rewrite that C/S app in one pass - not
enough people power.  Oracle is covered by our site license - but not on
the 3K.  And if Oracle is being ignored on the 3K, how am I supposed to
talk to that big blue box at the head shed (the one with the Oracle
financial application)?  Best I can come up with is tapes (shudder) or
encrypted FTP (shudder).

I (personally) would prefer all the eggs in one really good basket - an
HP3K.  So let's do the tests and give the boss numbers to take to
management.  Those guys are really smart - if we've got a "5" and it's
slow, and a "6" costs $xxxx, they can take it from there.

So do the numbers.  Help us prove we're not crazy for sticking to a good
box.  Make management prove the logic of moving the 3K'ers to an inferior
solution that costs more.

Then start building 3K's.  I think you'll be needing them :)

And that's not to pick on Jon or the other fine folks at HP.  The reason
some of us holler is that we care.  Except for the Oracle part, HP World
was very positive for me this year - keep up the good work!
--
Regards  --  Tony B. Shepherd  --  [log in to unmask]

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