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From: Ewa Bozejewicz[SMTP:internet!VICTORIA.UCI.AGH.EDU.PL!ewula]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 1996 12:53 PM
Subject: deleting ACD
Hello,
After applying C.50.04 to the system suddenly one file started to have
ACD. I tried to delete it by entering
altsec filename;delacd
but system gives a message
Canot delete ACD's from objects where file matrix security does not
apply. (CIERR 7330).
Any ideas what should I do to delete the ACD ??
On 5.0 systems, there is a new concept of a file OWNER. The OWNER of a
file doesn't have to be a member of the account where the file is stored,
so in order to "protect" the file, special ACD's have been created. If
these ACD's exist, the "normal" file security matrix, which is the READ,
WRITE, APPEND, LOCK, EXECUTE and sometimes SAVE, no longer has any
meaning, hence the error message you see when you try to remove the
ACD's. 5.0 of the operating system allows users with SYSTEM MANAGER
capability the ability to RENAME files accross account boundries. When
this happens, the original CREATOR of the file is retained as the OWNER,
even though that "creator" isn't a member of the account where the file
now resides.
Now for the <PLUG>: The only product (that I know of) that addresses the
issue is MPEX. I'm sure there are other methods and programs available
(and if not, expect to see some soon), but for right now this is your
"best bet" for clearing up the problem.
In MPEX, there is a new %LISTF mode called POSIX that was developed
internally to help debug and resolve problems caused by this "feature".
Here is an example:
<EXAMPLE>
H:/EMERSON/WORK:BUILD /SYS/PUB/TOMSTEST
H:/EMERSON/WORK:BUILD TOMSTST2.PUB.SYS <<BOTH naming formats
work...>>
H:/EMERSON/WORK:LISTF [log in to unmask],2
ACCOUNT= SYS GROUP= PUB
FILENAME CODE ------------LOGICAL RECORD----------- ----SPACE----
SIZE TYP EOF LIMIT R/B SECTORS #X MX
TOMSTEST 128W FB 0 1023 1 0 0 *
TOMSTST2 128W FB 0 1023 1 0 0 *
H:/EMERSON/WORK MPEX
MPEX/3000 25N51107 (c) VESOFT Inc, 1980 5.0 03:01958 For help type
'HELP'
Hint: Want to know which ACCOUNTS have had their access altered? Try:
%VEAUDIT LISTACCT @(NOT(SECRAC & SECAAC & SECLAC & SECWAC &
SECXGAC))
H:[TOM]/EMERSON/WORK>LISTF [log in to unmask],POSIX
MPEX %LISTF [log in to unmask] PAGE 1
SYSTEM HERON TOM.EMERSON,WORK WED, JUL 24, 1996, 8:59 AM
ACCOUNT= SYS GROUP= PUB
File Type UID Owner GID Group ID ACD
State
---------- ---- ----- ----------------- ----- -------- -- ---- ---
------------
TOMSTEST FB 152!TOM.EMERSON 1 SYS Today
8:59
TOMSTST2 FB 152!TOM.EMERSON 1 SYS Today
8:59
GROUP TOTAL: 2 FILES 0 SECTORS
</EXAMPLE>
You'll note that the "owner" is TOM.EMERSON, yet the file resides in
PUB.SYS. MPEX's ALTFILE command has a new keyword, LOCAL, that will
reset the owner to the account manager of the account where the file now
resides. Once this has been done, the ACD's can be removed.
Refer to the online HELP for more details (even though I wrote it, it's
been awhile, and development may have continued on at VESOFT since I
left, so there may be some differences between what I've mentioned here
and how the product currently operates)
</plug>
Tom Emerson
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