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November 2006, Week 3

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Chuck Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
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I am sitting at 6.0 myself and I am adverse to upgrading further.

Too much of what was put into 6.5 and beyond looked like quick fixes and
hacks to solve problems I did not have. Not to mention we have no desire
to pay the rediculous fee's demanded by 3rd party vendors, like Cognos,
to upgrade our hardware and offset the performance lost to these new
features.
 
It is all kind of moot though. Once we became convinced that OpenMPE was
a dead end we began the full migration process which will be complete by
October 2007. At that point the HP will be shut off and, other than a
few desktop printers not yet replaced, we will be an HP free shop... and
quite happy about it.

Comments are my own, not my employer's... Etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Tracy Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A new record?

6.0 and no reason for 6.5? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Berkowitz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:57 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: A new record?
> 
> A question to all the people that have had their systems up 
> for 3 years or 
> more...!  Why haven't you installed any patches that need the 
> system to 
> reboot in all this time?  Don't fix it if it ain't broke?  On 
> the way out 
> so leave it alone?  Don't do much work on it?  I don't need 
> no stinkin' 
> patches?
> 
> Michael Berkowitz 
> Project Manager, CGS Application Solutions
> 707 Wilshire Blvd Suite 1900
> Los Angeles, CA  90017-3509
> T: 213 614-1308
> F: 213 614-2028
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> 
> Sent by: HP-3000 Systems Discussion <[log in to unmask]>
> 11/15/2006 08:47 AM
> Please respond to
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> To
> [log in to unmask]
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: [HP3000-L] A new record?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> An excellent question, Grasshopper.
> 
> 2 reasons: 1) because you can, and 2) to start on topic 
> discussions about
> bragging rights.
> 
> Denys
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record?
> 
> why leave an active session on the console?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ray Shahan
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:13 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: A new record?
> > 
> > Not to hijack this thread, but I once contracted to a shop 
> that had an
> > AS400 and an hp3k...they did an IPL on the AS400 every 
> > Sunday, and when
> > they got the 3k, they did an IPL on it every Sunday, too.  
> I explained
> > to them that the 3k could literally run for years without 
> an IPL, and
> > that they certainly did not need to IPL the 3k every week.  
> They just
> > scoffed at the very idea of not doing an IPL every week, and 
> > when I left
> > (2 years later), they were still doing an IPL every Sunday to both
> > boxes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Have a great week!
> > 
> > 
> > Raymond Shahan
> > Computer Programmer
> >  REPUBLIC TITLE OF TEXAS, INC.
> >   2701 W Plano Parkway 
> > Plano, TX 75075
> > 
> > 
> > direct 214.556.0202
> > main 972.578.8611
> > fax 972.424.5621
> >  www.republictitle.com
> > [log in to unmask]
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of John Burke
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:27 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record?
> > 
> > Not even close:
> > 
> > RELEASE: C.65.00   MPE/iX HP31900 C.25.06   USER VERSION: C.65.03
> > CURRENT: TUE, NOV 14, 2006,  5:11 PM
> > LOGON:   MON, JAN 10, 2005, 12:36 PM
> > CPU SECONDS: 25         CONNECT MINUTES: 969395
> > 
> > John Burke
> > Burke Consulting
> > Tel: 916-987-0265
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > > Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:18 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [HP3000-L] A new record?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I walked by the console of the 3000 today, I did a 
> > > SHOWME:  the display
> > > showed CONNECT: 359996; 6,000 hours that translates to 250 days.
> > > 
> > > The console is a HP terminal, 700/92, of course.
> > > 
> > > Denys
> > > 
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