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Stephen Douglass <[log in to unmask]>
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Brad -

This is kind of a round-about way to get your files to Scotland, but it
works.  And while we don't do this very often, we have never had a problem
with it.

To simplify the whole transfer procedure, you will want to STORE your source
files into a single disk file, e-mail it to Scotland, upload that STORE file
to the recipient HP, and finally RESTORE the files.  (Obviously, if you only
have a few files then I'd skip the STORE/RESTORE parts and handle each file
individually.)

First, you need a couple of things in place: 1. a PC which can connect to
the HP 3000 in Scotland to perform an upload-to-host file transfer and, 2.
the ability to e-mail your file to the PC which connects to the HP in
Scotland.

Here's what to do:

        on the source computer type the following:

                FILE OUT=somename;DEV=DISC
                STORE @[log in to unmask];*OUT;SHOW

        when this is done you will have a disk file called "somename" which will
contain all the files in the "aaa" account.

        Next, you have to transfer your disk-based STORE file to your PC.  (We use
Minisoft for terminal emulation, so that's what we use to perform uploads
and downloads between PCs and our HP 3000s.)  Make sure you transfer the
file to your PC as a BINARY file, not ASCII.

Now e-mail the file from your PC to the PC in Scotland.

Once Scotland receives the STORE file, they upload it to their HP 3000.
Again, do a BINARY file transfer, not ASCII.

When the file is uploaded onto their HP, RESTORE the files originally
STOREd:

                FILE IN=xfername;DEV=DISC
                RESTORE *IN;@[log in to unmask]@;CREATE;OLDDATE

        where "xfername" is the name given the uploaded file as saved on Scotland's
HP.

This will RESTORE all the files, creating groups and accounts as necessary.
If you want to RESTORE the files into a different  account name than they
are on the source computer, add ";ACCOUNT=newname" following the ';OLDDATE',
where "newname" is the new account name.  (E.g., if the account name on your
source computer is 'ALPHA', and you want the account name on Scotland's HP
to be 'OMEGA', the command would read RESTORE
*IN;@[log in to unmask];CREATE;OLDDATE;ACCOUNT=OMEGA.

Mind you, if the overall size of all the files you want to get to Scotland
is large, the transfers could take some time, but it'd most likely be faster
than sending a tape.  (Of course, hand-delivering a tape is always the
surest method, if you catch my meaning.)

Good luck!

Steve Douglass
BFGoodrich Aerospace


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Brad Feazell
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Copy tape to disk / disk to tape


I've got an urgent situation where I need to install some software on an
HP3000 in Scotland before the tomorrow afternoon and I'm for a way to get a
tape to them in time.

Is there a downloadable utility that will copy a tape to disk and disk to
tape? If so, I should be able to copy the disk file to the HP3000 in
Scotland and have them use  the utility to create a tape.

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