Think about it  Ron.... The Ed Sharpe  HP Counter-Culture  may win out....
Perhaps there will be many people maintaining their own  hardware.... and
loving it!

I could just about always be back online in about the time it took others
under maintainance  just to log the call.....

ed sharpe archivist for smecc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Seybold" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] What are you doing on the 11/14 - 2 year
anniversary?


> Hello Friends:
>
>   Duane Percox wrote:
> >So, what are you doing on this 2 year anniversary
> >of the fateful day of the HP 11/14/2001 announcement?
>
> Today I'm creating and posting Web pages of the stories in our
> November issue of the 3000 NewsWire. That's pretty much the same
> thing I was doing two years ago. Of course, the news is different, at
> least some of it. People are migrating, but not anywhere near as many
> as HP promised. We have stories about migration alternatives, but we
> also have stories about homesteaders. Many more companies are staying
> put right now than migrating, at least actively.
>
> As far as what we're doing differently, we're accepting sponsorship
> ads from people who recommend moving away from the HP 3000. Two years
> ago we wouldn't have taken such copy. But our survey shows about 45
> percent of our audience is looking over migration. We serve both
> transition paths at the NewsWire, and that's different from two years
> ago.
>
> By extension, we are learning about the promise of Linux, of the work
> in migrations to Oracle, of the budgetary requirements for HP-UX
> license transfers, of alternatives in databases like Eloquence. Few
> of those would have been suitable material in 2001 for the only
> independent news source about the HP 3000.
>
> We're also hearing about how 3000 customers are using the system to
> communicate with Oracle databases, how long and how much money it has
> taken for a shop to move from the 3000 to PeopleSoft, and what an IT
> manager can expect in the way of user acceptance while revamping
> program interfaces.
>
> Yesterday I heard SSA's proposal to MANMAN customers about making
> them Baan sites, but it was simply a step on the way to something
> called SSA Open ERP. So those sites have two transitions in front of
> them if they move away from their HP 3000s. One IT manager at the
> conference call said he welcomed the move away from MANMAN, because
> it will help him implement business process changes. Invoices are not
> automatic at this multi-billion dollar firm in Houston. This isn't
> really the 3000's fault -- but the introduction of changing platforms
> will let the IT manager accomplish some business changes that have
> been resisted so far.
>
> It's an interesting time for 3000 sites, no matter what their plans
> are for the future. Lots of sites are still forming study committees
> to decide what to do about transition. We'll keep track of their
> stories and report them in the NewsWire. Head over to
> http://www.3000newswire.com/wiresub.html and get signed up to read
> about them. Trial subscriptions are free right now. Considering what
> the 3000 alternatives are going to cost, we think that's quite a
> deal. :)
>
> --
>
> Ron Seybold, Editor In Chief
> The 3000 NewsWire
> Independent Information to Maximize Your HP 3000
> http://www.3000newswire.com
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