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Jack Connor <[log in to unmask]>
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Jack Connor <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:00:36 -0700
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Jim,

I don't know if the console log disc entries are blocked as well, but it would be logical to assume so.  You could check last night's log for type 115s and see if they queue at a certain point.

Per the powering off of the console, that is not generally a problem.

The problem arises when someone begins typing on the console, but doesn't hit ENTER/RETURN. That blocks the device until the input is completed.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Phillips [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:51 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Anomaly

Thanks for the reply, Kim.

Very interesting.  Is there any way of querying the system log files to determine if this is really what happened?

Our console is usually powered off unless we are rebooting.

Jim

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Kim Borgman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Kim Borgman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] Anomaly
> To: "'Jim Phillips'" <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:43 AM We had this happen once
> also....the system 'hangs' when messages cannot display on the console
> after the buffer? fills up.
>
> In our case, a simple return at the console displayed everything and
> we were fine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Jim Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] Anomaly
>
> We had an anomaly with our HP3000 system this morning. When I got the
> call just beforee 5 AM, I could ping the server and connect to the
> remote console yet I could not remote in using either telnet or NS/VT.
> I had someone go onsite (the server is located remotely from me) and
> the console was non-responsive.  Control-B worked, but going back to
> the console it was still non-responsive.  I finally got the console
> working via using Control-A and then hitting return (no Control-A
> command), and then the flood gates opened and hundreds of console
> messages flooded in.
>
> At that point I could see what jobs were running and everything looked
> okay, with the exception of them running hours later than they were
> expected to run.  Looking at the $STDLIST for the restart job that
> runs after the backup (and which streams all the nightly batch jobs),
> I find this:
>
> :LISTF @.TEMP.MDSSBASE
> THU, AUG 20, 2009, 1:31 AM
> FILENAME
> C6130002
> C6130004
> . . .
>
> :SHOWJOB JOB=@J;EXEC
> JOBNUM STATE IPRI JIN JLIST INTRODUCED JOB NAME
> #J6128 EXEC 10S JCYIT THU 1:00A FULLBACK,MANAGER.SYS
> #J6202 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:12A NP92JOB,MGR.MINISOFT
> #J6204 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:16A NETBASE,MGR.NETBASE
> #J6199 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:11A RESTART,MANAGER.SYS
> #J6228 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:26A MS225F,USER.JCY
> #J6226 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:26A NITELY,USER.JCY
> #J6218 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:23A NITELY,USER.MMS3000
> #J6122 EXEC 10S LP THU 7:34A BCKCHK,MANAGER.SYS #J6200 EXEC 10S JCYIT
> THU 1:12A INETD,MANAGER.SYS
> #J6237 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:30A MS220PR,USER.MMS3000 #J6210 EXEC 10S LP
> THU 1:18A NITELY,USER.MEXICO
> #J6206 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:16A SYSCHK,MGR.UTIL
> #J6201 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:15A MSJOB,MGR.MINISOFT
> #J6233 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:29A MS220PR,USER.MEXICO
> #J6205 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:16A JWHSERVR,MANAGER.SYS
> #J6235 EXEC 10S LP THU 1:29A NITELY,USER.OVO
> 16 JOBS (DISPLAYED):
> 0 SESSIONS
> JOBFENCE= 0; JLIMIT= 9; SLIMIT= 256
> :SHOWTIME
> THU, AUG 20, 2009, 7:34 AM
>
>
> And what puzzles me about this is the elapsed time between the :LISTF
> and the SHOWJOB (1:31 AM to 7:34 AM).  The latter time is,
> interestingly enough, just about the time I got the console to start
> responding.
>
> So, my question is:  How can I find out what happened to delay things
> from 1:31 AM until 7:30?
>
> TIA
>
> Jim Phillips
>
>
>
>
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