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My .02 - 

Over 75% of the emails received at my company are SPAM.  Yes, that
number is correct.  

We pay for the bandwidth on those coming in, plus had to buy software
and pay support on programs to filter them out before they get to the
users.  In spite of these measures, I still have some getting through to
Exchange, where yet more filters exist.

The email that started this chain WAS in my Junk folder.  Does it bother
me?  Not really.  At least it wasn't telling me how to make my
girlfriend happier in bed with a size increase, or that OEM software is
available for cheap pricing, or contained the "F-word" in the subject
line.  I shudder to think that my mother gets emails like that...no one
deserves that kind of affront.

It boils down to marketing.  They can't sell their products if people
don't know about them.  Obviously, some people somewhere respond to
these campaigns and the spammers move product, so they keep "casting out
their nets" in the form if spam.  

If you want to stop it, stop buying these goods.  Stop forwarding on
these emails that are obviously crap; Bill Gates is NOT going to give
everyone in the email history $1000 dollars as part of a test, Starbucks
will not be sending everyone a $5 giftcard for participating, yadda
yadda.  If you must send these emails on, strip out the previous
addresses and HIDE the addresses you are sending to (and don't include
me!).  Don't believe that the government is going to do something about
it; this is an international problem, as proven by the number of Nigeria
scams that have been sent to me.

Unfortunately, most people are uninformed about spam tactics and end up
giving out email addresses of friends and family without realizing it.
All it takes is education about it.

"But that is just my opinion, I could be wrong."

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Jay Maynard
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Bay Pointe Technology

(I fixed your quote. Please don't top-post.)

On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 06:16:15AM -0600, Joseph Dolliver wrote:
> Jay Maynard wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 05:26:20AM -0600, Joseph Dolliver wrote:
> > > YOU CAN ALWAYS HIT THE DELETE BUTTON.
> > This is the standard spammer's argument. The problem is that it
doesn't
> > scale. My system - with just a few users - rejected 10631 spams last
week.
> I can't imagine that you are SPAMMED in the 3000-l mail 10631 times.

No, I wasn't. I was spammed that many times, period. (Plus the few
hundred
that made it past my spam filters.)

It doesn't matter whether it was from this list or not. If everyone
thinks
"well, there's not much spam from this list, so a few more is okkay",
then
we're back in the same boat.

Spam is *NEVER* okkay. Period. It is unacceptable, no matter who sends
it,
no matter in what forum, no matter for what purpose. Spammers are vile.
Spamming should be considered as antisocial as any other form of theft.

> Did you ever put a filter on your mail? 

Yes. That's why I didn't waste more time on deleting spam.

That doesn't matter. No spam is acceptable, period.
-- 
Jay Maynard, K5ZC                   http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com      http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org               (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390

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